A great help, and thank you Jim.
I’m actually trying to trace the WW1 wartime career of Capt C K M Douglas AFC, who became one of the Met Offices greatest operational forecasters during the first half of the last century, playing a major meteorological role in the forecasts leadng up to D-day and also in Bomber Command’s operations.
I know he started his flying career as an observer with 15 Squadron in the summer of 1915 and was subsequently wounded flying with 34 Sqn in Oct 1916. Hospitalised, he returned to the UK after which he must have started his pilot training with 26 Reserve Squadron.
That’s a thought, does your reference give the locations of :
15 Sqn (June 1915-Feb 1916)
18 Sqn (Feb 1916-Sep 1916
34 Sqn (Sep-Oct 1916)?
TIA
Brian
GBKIWI
608 Squadron’s main base was Blida, but there was also an element at Bone, so 608 covered quite a long stretch of coast (the two sectors overlapped).
500 Squadron also covered these sectors.
Details in “The Maw” by James R Stevens.
Brian
PS to my last. If anyone has photos of the 1957 event I would very much appreciate hearing from them.
Brian
Pete,
I took the date from an article in the July 1987 issue of “Flypast”. The author was Aldon Ferguson and was written to mark the 30th anniversary of the last operational flight of RAF Spitfires.
Most of the other information is taken from my own researches for an article I’m writing about the history of the RAF Meteorological Flights.
Brian
Further to my previous post, the Civilian THUM Flight was formed with four Spitfire X1Xs, PM549 (destroyed 5/5/52), PM577, PM652 (Destroyed 4/3/54) and PM631. PS853 and PM651 replaced the lost aircraft in March 1954, but PM651 was struck off charge in July following an accident. The last Spitfire to join the unit was PS915 in Aug 1954.
The last THUM sortie by a Spitfire was flown by PS853. Not sure what happened to PM577, but the others eventually became the BBMF.
The last sortie ever by the THUM Flight was made by Mosquito TJ138. Meteor F8s were trialled as replacements for the Mosquitoes, but proved unsuitable.
The main feature of the last public air display at Woodvale on 12 June 1957 was a flypast of the Spitfires and the replacement Mosquitoes.
Brian
The RAF had a long history of providing data for the Met Office, stretching back to February 1918 and the formation of the first Meteorological Flight at Berck in NE France (it was a RFC unit until 1 April 1918). This was disbanded in 1919, but two more Met Flights were formed in early 1920, one at Baldonnel, near Dublin, and the other at Upavon.
For various reasons these two were not a success (mainly because other units kept ‘borrowing’ their aircraft) but in November 1924 a truely independent Met Flight was formed at Eastchurch, but this soon moved – to Duxford in Jan 1925. The Met Flight moved to Mildenhall in Nov 1936, and two months later a second Met Flight was formed, this one at Aldergrove. It was with the first operational ascent by the Aldergrove Met Flight that the term THUM first appeared. It derives from Temperature and HUMidity, the two most important elements obtained during a meteorological ascent.
Despite this the units continued to be known as Meteorological Flights, and by the end of WW2 there were some 24 Met Flights operating in all the major war theatres. With the end of the war the need for the Met Flights soon disappeared as other means of gathering upper air data were developed.
However, in June 1946 Fighter Command started providing supplementary upper air data with a new THUM Flight. In fact it was not a single unit but a confederation of squadrons based at Coltishall and West Malling. The daily THUM flight (as it was now called) was flown in rotation by one of the three squadrons based at each airfield, 23, 141 and 264 at Coltishall, and 25, 29 and 85 at West Malling – all flying Mosquitoes. Each squadron had the task for about a month.
By 1950 the piston-engined Mosquitoes were being replaced by jets, which were unsuitable for the task, and the last RAF THUM flight was made from West Malling on 30 April 1951.
The following day a newly formed civilian THUM Flight, operated by Short Brothers and Harland, under the control of RAF Home Command, flew its first sortie from RAF Hooton Park. Flying RAF Spitfires the unit soon moved to RAF Woodvale where it remained for the next 7 years. The THUM Flight made its ascents over Worcester, and most were made at 1500 GMT. There were two fatalities during this time; Mr G Hargreaves died when his Spitfire crashed at Woodvale returning from a flight test on 4 May 1952. Mr T Heyes died on 4 March 1954 when his Spitfire crashed at Church Pulvernack in Shropshire whilst returning from a THUM sortie.
The last Spitfire sortie was flown on 10 June 1957. Flying Mosquitoes the THUM Flight remained in existence for a few more months, but the curtain came down with the final sortie on 1 May 1959.
Brian
Akrotiri U2 accident on 7 December 1977
With respect to all recent contributors vague throwaway sentences are not evidence of what happened that day. No-one has quoted an authority for their remarks – hearsay comments are of no historical value and can often perpetrate myths that have no bearing on the truth. To be quite frank I cannot believe the pilots had a ‘game’ of trying to turn inside the tower on takeoff – that would be contrary to flight safety procedures, not to say damn stupid. So where is the evidence – evidence not hearsay?
Brian
Akrotiri U2 accident on 7 December 1977
My thanks to all who replied to my query. Putting everything together from this and another forum the story goes like this.
The U2 was taking off on a routine reconnaissance over the Sinai Desert when it stalled on take off, crashing into the station operations complex, spreading debris and burning fuel everywhere. Some people were trapped in what remained of the building(s). Amongst those trapped in the building was Flt Lt BJM Limb and two of his staff. Unable to release them, or escape himself, he instructed rescuers to gain access through the walls of the building. (This probably resulting in one of the stories posted about a Landrover trying to knock down a door because it was locked.) For his bravery Flt Lt Limb was awarded the Queen’s Gallantry Medal.
My thanks again
Brian