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  • in reply to: Tiger Moth loss? #859607
    WH904
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    The operator has two Moths – one operates from Darley Moor and the other from Netherthorpe. The latter aircraft was a familiar sight over Sheffield – I wondered where it had gone 🙁

    in reply to: Tiger Moth loss? #859630
    WH904
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    Mystery solved-
    http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/local/vintage-tiger-moth-plane-flipped-upside-down-in-netherthorpe-airfield-report-reveals-1-7356481
    No wonder we haven’t seen it round these parts for quite a while!
    Pretty worrying if Netherthorpe is judged by some to be too small even for a Tiger Moth 🙁

    in reply to: Canberra WK163 – any news? #861178
    WH904
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    Howard, that’s interesting to know although one wonders what they would need a photograph of?

    I hope that at least eases the fears around one Canberra which has suffered a troubled retirement until now.
    Not sure that there are any fears for that Canberra’s future now – but it’s still hard to understand how CAF acquired the aircraft with a view to flying it and it wasn’t so long ago that a TV documentary traced its stately progress to St.Mawgan, complete with occasional comments about how the aircraft would fly again one day. Now it’s simply abandoned, never to fly again. As I said a few posts back, CAF seems to have had a major shift in fortunes and/or attitude and yet very little has been said as to why.

    in reply to: Canberra WK163 – any news? #861435
    WH904
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    David, you’re wasting your time, move on 😉

    in reply to: Will the BBC please write headlines a little better #861618
    WH904
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    ‘Richard Clarke, from the Vulcan Bomber project, told BBC reporter Clinton Rogers, he was “devastated” the Vulcan had to retire this year’

    I suppose one could argue that if it was a serious news story (rather than the usual disposable soundbite stuff we’re used to), then someone could have looked into assertions such as this. Obviously XH558 doesn’t have to retire next year, it’s simply a decision that has been made based on circumstances. But then I don’t suppose anyone from the Beeb (or anywhere else) would ever invest more than a few seconds of attention in a subject like XH558. It would only be considered worthy of attention if it accidentally landed in someone’s back garden 🙁

    in reply to: Will the BBC please write headlines a little better #861780
    WH904
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    Ah yes, the infamous Tintagel saga… think that particular Hunter suffered from hydrophobia 🙂

    in reply to: Canberra WK163 – any news? #861914
    WH904
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    At least Midair have stated their position and they’re still planning to fly again. CAF seem to have lapsed into complete silence 🙁

    in reply to: Canberra WK163 – any news? #861916
    WH904
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    I thought you were destinctly under the impression that St Mawgan was mainly aimed at maintainance !
    I’ve had to say this before to you David – try reading precisely what I’ve said. It would help.

    in reply to: Will the BBC please write headlines a little better #861917
    WH904
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    Several options for feedback and complaints in here
    Ahh yes, the complaints procedure. I have used it a couple of times even though I realised before I started that it would achieve nothing. As one might expect, the response usually comes in the form of platitudes and excuses. For example, I raised the issue of sports with the local BBC network and the Editor’s response was that it “was a contentious subject” that split viewers almost fifty-fifty. Apart from the obvious point that neither I or anyone I know has ever been asked about viewing preferences (which suggests that his “fifty-fifty” assertion was merely his own biased view), he completely failed to address my point that the local BBC news broadcast is very short, and to have ninety percent of it devoted to sport (and this happens regularly) was a clear contradiction of the programme’s advertised content. Needless to say he didn’t even bother to reply to this. The complaints procedure simply takes complaints and provides the most plausible answer. If the answer is utter nonsense, then the usual “we are sorry but we do our very best to…” platitudes are issued. At no stage is there any interest in listening to complaints and/or acting on them. It’s simply damage limitation.

    Same applies across the networks. I regularly watch Matthew Wright’s morning programme on Channel 5. The pre-advert question captions are regularly misspelled and although it is a trivial matter, people evidently do email the show to point-out these errors. Matthew responds with a laugh and an apology and we wait for the next howler to occur. But one has to wonder just who these people are that get these jobs, how much they are paid for their inabilities, and why someone with a decent grasp of spelling and grammar can’t be employed instead. As has been said above, it’s just laziness. Anything goes. Some say that this doesn’t matter, and English usage has to move with the times. Even the sainted Stephen Fry espouses this notion, but catering for the abilities of the lowest common denominator is a dangerous game. Ultimately it will destroy whatever is left of journalistic standards and it will degrade our language until it no longer functions. Taken to an extreme it will eventually take us back to exchanging grunts prehistoric style; Some would say we’ve already reached that stage!

    The aviation aspect is only part of a whole. I guess the classic examples of lamentably poor aviation journalism are the “enthusiast” programmes seen on Discovery and other channels. Okay, I don’t profess to be an expert on anything, nor do I claim to be particularly competent in terms of English usage, but some (most in fact) of the aviation programmes are just awful. The information is often questionable, the historical information is often clearly wrong or misleading, and it is usually presented either in dreary, monotonous tones, or in an aggressively loud style that is presumably aimed at kids. Foolishly, the programmes often use “celebrity” (or at least vaguely familiar) figures to present the shows, and yet it is always clear that they don’t know what they’re talking about. John Nichols is one famous example – spouting endlessly about subjects that clearly mean nothing to him. Presumably the programme makers (wrongly) assumed that if he’d worked as a Tornado Navigator he would somehow be an expert on all aspects of aviation. I often wonder why air shows are never screened on television any more, and I presume it’s because the TV executives imagine that there isn’t an audience of any significance. I can’t believe that this is true though, especially when one considers the huge numbers of people that go to air shows. Mildenhall’s show often pulled crowds of 200,000 or more which puts the event on a par with major sports events or concerts etc. But where’s the television coverage? My hunch is that the viewing figures were indeed probably disappointing, but when I recall the lousy camera work, and the tedious content, presented by random “celebrities” (I recall Fern Britton and David Icke for example – I kid you not, I still have the tapes!), then it’s little wonder that air shows disappeared in the post-Raymond Baxter era. But how can this be when huge numbers of people watched Jeremy Clarkson playing with nothing more than cars?

    I suppose I’ve fallen into the “Grumpy Old Man” trap but I really do think that as time goes by, television just gets progressively worse, not better.

    in reply to: Will the BBC please write headlines a little better #862124
    WH904
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    The “hero” business is as old as aviation itself. Every crash supposedly involves the heroic pilot steering the doomed machine away from people. I think it was Chuck Yeager who commented on this, stating how ludicrous it was. If the aeroplane is going down, the only important action is to get out of it, and there’s obviously no time to consider the question of where it’s going to land. I guess it’s just typical of how reporters really don’t know anything about the subject they’re reporting on. It’s also evident in the reports of “planes crashing in flames” and this is often verified by witnesses who inevitably claim they saw the stricken machine falling in a ball of flames, even when in some cases we know for certain that there wasn’t so much as a spark.

    Perhaps the problem with the BBC, as outlined by OP’s post, is that they haven’t come fully to grips with 24 hour rolling news.
    Indeed, rolling news is mostly the same fifteen-minute news repeated again and again until something more exciting comes along. My pet hate is the bizarre confusion the news channels seem to have when distinguishing between news and sport. The BBC evening news is the classic example. Twenty minutes of news, then a sports story, and then the sports news, as if the previous story had been about something else. I can never understand why the news media seem to think that sports results and commentary are in any way connected with news. Remarkably, they devote much less time to the weather forecast even though that is at least relevant and useful information (even if it is a triumph of presentation over real content). The BBC news service is increasingly poor, and ITV (ITN) is even worse, often seeming to be aimed at five year-olds (if I have to hear Alastair Stewart over enunciating again I’ll scream). Oddly, Sky seems to be the most professional, and often gets news stories on air well in advance of the BBC.

    It’s grim stuff. 24-hour broadcasting and yet the actual amount of news seems to be little more than the same fifteen minutes we get on the main TV channels. Surely, the world can’t be so dull? There really isn’t enough news to occupy at least an hour? Still, the inability to find enough material does sometimes have its advantages. I recall that when XH558 started flying again it went to Cottesmore for compass swings and BBC News 24 covered its departure live. I imagine that it left most viewers slightly confused as to what they were watching, but great for the rest of us!

    in reply to: Canberra WK163 – any news? #862241
    WH904
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    I hope they don’t abandon the Canberra or if they do, then at least try and transfer it to someone who might be able to make some progress. I just got the feeling that the whole enterprise was really winding down. As you say, I think CAF are being pretty laid-back about visitors but to be fair I didn’t check-in with them, I just went to see the Shackleton guys, but the place was incredibly quiet, just one guy walking around. The Canberra out on the grass, hangars devoid of any people, and the Twin Pin looking very sorry for itself – and I really don’t know why it is sat outside partially assembled if it is supposedly being restored to flying condition. Maybe it’s just my perception but I can’t help thinking back a while when CAF were making lots of announcements about future plans and how Coventry would develop and St.Mawgan would be a big attraction, etc. Now the situation seems to have turned full circle. The St.Mawgan venture has ended very badly, the Canberra T4 is evidently never going to fly again, the Varsity, VC10 and 111 aren’t ever going to move at all, the Twin Pin looks like it’s not going anywhere, and there’s certainly no talk of any other new restoration projects. The most frustrating thing is that CAF now seem to be unwilling to even say much about the situation or the future. I take no pleasure from it all, it’s a very sad business.

    in reply to: Will the BBC please write headlines a little better #862253
    WH904
    Participant

    Television news (and other programmes) can be very annoying or frustrating. The thing that worries me is that you hear some silly comment about an aviation subject that you know is patently wrong, and then you wonder just how many other things are said that are also wrong, but you don’t know it. It devalues the whole experience. I’m continually annoyed by the petty little things like the constant misuse of apostrophes (gems like during the 60’s for example) and the continual belief that ’til is spelled till and so on. My favourite is the new fashion for announcing a “full weather forecast” as if a partial forecast was the other option. I know it really doesn’t matter but you wonder how these muppets get their jobs.

    in reply to: Canberra WK163 – any news? #862606
    WH904
    Participant

    The last news I heard was that the restoration had been abandoned and they had decided to reassemble the aircraft for static display and push it outside.

    I sincerely hope not but it looked pretty much as it does on the photo above when I saw it yesterday. Surely they wouldn’t just abandon the project without even telling anyone? Or would they? The whole CAF site was astonishingly quiet yesterday – I only saw one other person walking about. The Canberra is parked out on the grass and the Twin Pin is partially assembled and parked in front of the office block – which doesn’t seem very encouraging.

    Whats happening with the Varsity?
    It’s staying at St.Mawgan it seems – parked outside the HAS area at the mercy of the elements.

    The more time goes by, the once-exciting future for CAF seems to get more and more depressing. I hope happier events unfold eventually.

    in reply to: Vulcan Question? #862610
    WH904
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    I asked a guide at Cosford last week but he couldn`t tell me !

    That figures – they only know how to tell people not to step across barriers…

    in reply to: Herald G-AVPN scrapped Elvington #864514
    WH904
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    I have fond memories of flying on the Brymon one to Newquay.

    My fluffy memories too are of G-ATIG. It was part of the scenery at St.Mawgan for such a long time, drifting in and out amongst the Nimrods and Canberras. Always worth a walk along the lane to the Airport to see it start-up and taxy out 🙂

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