Time to put you all out your misery…….
About 15 years ago my friend ( a very experienced metal detectorist)had permission to detect on the land where Hess’s 110 crashed. All that turned up were some coroded alloy parts and one plate….the makers plate jammy git.
If there was anything left to find beleive me he would have got it as we have a lot of photo’s of the crash plus intel. reports and even Hess’s death certificate.
Alan.
Air Britain has the location as Yarrow near Selkirk.
Alan.
Have the photo’s of G-ANOK in front of me after my friend and I dismantled it for the owner at Strathallan airfield where it had been stored for some time. From memory it was owned by a chap called Gault who arrived with his daughter and another chap with a long trailer. The aircraft was loaded by myself and my friend and was in good condition when it left for the owners home in the borders,Kelso and 1987/8 I think.
The aircraft was needing re certified, paint was in good condition but the red stripe down the middle was fading.
Hope you find it, was to good to leave to rot.
Alan.
Thought i throw my 2p worth in on colour…..try getting a good match on a five year old car even with the manufacturers paint.
In the case of the panel in question it will have been exposed to extremes of temparature change, airflow, uv light, oxidation, soot and oil therefore it has no chance of being an exact match to the original, factory fresh paint.
Any aircraft that has been re-sprayed or touched up in the field will have had the paint mixed by eye to a “thats close enough spec” by some Erc, who if he’s as good with colours as I am, could be totally colour dislexic.
Bloody nice panel, should be hanging on the wall with aircraft history in pride of place.
Alan.
Hi,
How’s your German, as there is a Do.17 Fleugzeughandbuch at the link below. 294 pages.
Regards,
Alan.
The casualty files for both crew and their service records can be found at the link below but are not digitalised yet. A small fee is required, I think it is 28 Australian dollars.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx
Insert the service numbers and you will see the files available. series A705 files are for casualty repatriation and usually have the report of the accident and inquiry papers. Series A9300 are the individuals service record.
Best keeping an eye on Liquidity Services website as there are Tornado spares being disposed of each month. Large pile of nose cones this month.
453 Sqn Operational Records are in the link below, W.J. Harper first appears on page 5 as being on route from the UK 12/9/41. Harper arrives on page 9 on 2/10/41 and is mentioned throughout to page 28 in Feb ’42. On the next ORB from June ’42 at Drem to Jan ’46 there is no mention of him.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=1359053
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=1359195
His combat reports for 18/5/40, 25/5/40,11/8/40,15/8/40 and 8/11/40 are available on line here for £3.50.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7738390&queryType=1&resultcount=8
Regards,
Al.
Lottery win and trip to the Desert it is. Thanks for the link, combined all my interests in one, crashed aircraft, the LRDG and desert travel.
All depends on how much cash is available. If you want to focus on Aviation Archeology there are still plenty to find and visit in Scotland including an Australian who still lies in his aircraft, much to my disgust !
Then there is the Russian front with many German and Soviet undiscovered.
PM sent.
No need to look further than the Scottish hills…….
Hudson on Ben Lui, Lancaster on Ben Eighe, Lancaster at Grantown, USAF crashes on Arran, Skye and Gairloch. Several German aircraft. Every nationality of aircrew was killed on the Scottish hills and mountains from the first world war to present day.
Albacore N4167 crashed at 819288 and Walrus W3023 at 818288. The location is between the summit and King Kenneth’s Cairn. We found some small parts of both aircraft back in the late 90’s after being shown by a local farmer.
The crews were LAC C.H Grubb, LAC T.D DeCuna, and LT H.M Pollock on the Albacore. Sub/Lt. D.V Lunn and LAC G.G.G Cuny were on the Walrus.
Both aircraft crashed at the same time during a night flying exercise.
Visited the yard around 1976 and from memory this is what was there:
Shellduck drone, Sea Venoms in a pile with a Gannet on top, Sea Balliol fuselages x3(souveneered an instrument and stick top), Vulcan parts (XH477 crashed Hill of St.Colm), Shackelton XF710 (crashed Culloden),Scimitar, Seahawk and Hunter parts.
There was a publication around that time produced by the Central Scotland Aviation Group called “Scotland Scanned-A guide to Aviation in Scotland “by Paul Wiggins and Alan Reid which listed around 30 identifyable inhabitants of the yard.
Editions are still available on the web and if I find my copy I’ll post the relevant bits.
Worth finding the airfield maps first and looking for any underground air raid shelters which are no longer visible especially on an airfield where large scale scrapping took place at the wars end. The reason I say this is that we dug ( with the owners permission) an air raid shelter around 1990 which had been filled with old equipment. It yeilded new Merlin exhaust stubs, used spitfire thottle assemblies and a complete Barracuda instrument panel amongst others (parts were passed to a musem). We stopped digging when we got to boxes of plasma and other medical supplies. We also recovered several wheels and tyres from a building Anson/Proctor.
American bases should be of particular interest as what they weren’t taking back to the states was destroyed and dumped. This was still the case when they pulled out of the Holy Loch in recent years. Anything that wouldn’t fit on the USS Hunley was dumped overboard, tools, cabinets, boats and spares.
The pile on the seabed was so large it had to be removed at British tax payers expense. A wartime US Navy base near me has had a lot dumped in the sea and buried on shore which I’ll ferret over once the foliage has died down.
The crash site is behind the East Lodge at the Botanical Gardens and was being flown by a Rhodesian, Arthur Westcombe Searle, of 123sqn. The dig ran out at around 8ft with only small pieces being found.
Spitfire X4560 was being flown by John Bisdee of 609sqn on the 7/10/40 when he shot down an Me.110 which crashed at Cerne Abbas. Does anyone know any further details on the Me.110 ?