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April 28, 2011 at 7:25 am in reply to: MMRCA News And Discussion 7 #2355749

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India says no to US fighter planes

Your firms are out of fighter contract fray, India tells US

(US ambassador to India) Timothy Roemer announces resignation

wait, tim roemer = scooter ? :dev2:

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BTW, Responsible Initiative would have said : either keep Tejas,
downsize MMRCA numbers and hasten cooperation on Pak-Fan or…
kill Tejas, buy Gripen-NG and collaborate with serious people on
the Next Gen, whomever!

Just a naïve thought, good night all, Tay.

how would that have been responsible ? PAKFA can’t be hastened any more, killing tejas is out of the question, dumbing down to gripNG levels is not what IAF needs from MRCA and collaborating on AMCA might happen irrespective of the other programs.

April 28, 2011 at 4:50 am in reply to: Pakistan Air Force III #2355843

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acquire the one that is not selected ? 😉
get tiffy if IAF gets rafale or get rafale if IAF gets tiffy. in fact I am surprised they already haven’t. hasn’t the PAF already checked out rafale sometime back ?
may be they are waiting for IAF to make its decision.

April 27, 2011 at 8:43 pm in reply to: Indian AF News and Discussion Part 16. #2356177

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BlackArcher, let me put it this way, merlin2 would be an honoured guest at f16.net and wingman of scooter. 😉

April 27, 2011 at 7:37 pm in reply to: Indian AF News and Discussion Part 16. #2356317

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merlin2, could you kindly spare this thread about your musings on MRCA ?

April 26, 2011 at 1:38 pm in reply to: Egypt and Syrian AF-1973 #1070583

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unfortunately it is likely to get zero response here. folks in this section consider anything after propellers as modern aviation.

April 25, 2011 at 8:02 pm in reply to: Pakistan Air Force III #2356967

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Indians getting jittery about PAF’s capabilities?

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/headlines_today/ProgrammesShow?catName=Ground%20Zero&video=0&counter=null&contentId=135857&catId=45

yes, very.

I would argue that modernization of the PAF brings back some conventional balance and reduces the risk of a nuclear exchange between both nations.

on the contrary, some would argue that it is restoration of ‘conventional balance’ that is destabilising — as history provides ample proof.

both 1965 and 1971 wars happened on the back of massive US military aid to pakistan as well as support from china, enough to restore balance and provide a qualitative edge to pakistan. the late 80’s when we came within a hair’s breadth of (possibly nuclear) war, it was again in the backdrop of significant infusion of sophisticated arms from US, the f-16 in particular.
kargil again happened when pakistan had managed to restore ‘parity’ by conventional logic of deterrence. yet the reaction was imbalancing.
the problem with your analysis is you are assuming that pakistan is content with the status quo of uneasy peace and India is not. the reverse is true in actuality. and nearly everytime pakistan has managed to regain parity it has tried to act on that malcontentment.

April 23, 2011 at 6:55 am in reply to: Indian AF News and Discussion Part 16. #2357667

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it’s from vishal thapar, probably the worst defence journalist India has produced.

April 17, 2011 at 1:03 am in reply to: Turkish Air Force – News & Discussion #2360240

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that F-16 paintjob looks awesome !

April 11, 2011 at 8:32 am in reply to: Floggers in 2011 #2362532

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Nothing can be integrated quite easily.

easy is a relative term. ‘certain things’ can be integrated easily as compared to ‘other things’. one doesn’t expect that such obvious ‘things’ have to be explained on a military discussion forum.

When money is not important it is a remote option at least. 😉

the sentence itself doesn’t make sense. perhaps you can rephrase ?

April 10, 2011 at 11:13 pm in reply to: Floggers in 2011 #2362594

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Are newer AAM’s for self defense a part of the upgrade? I assume the R-60 can still be carried, but what about the R-73?

R-73 has not been mentioned specifically(but that means nothing) but it can be integrated quite easily if they wanted it due to the refurbished stores management system. since IAF is steadily moving out of R-60 business I would say chances are high that R-73 has been integrated.

April 9, 2011 at 12:28 am in reply to: Floggers in 2011 #2363224

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1553. check the two links from livefist blog in my post, lot’s of details there.

as for new weapons, LGBs mostly and possibly some of the russian ASMs. much of the effort has gone into making the birds more reliable and easy to use. they will be used as dedicated bomb trucks IMO.

In a few places the book seems to contradict itself. For example, it states the MiG-27 can carry a maximum of nine FAB-250 (i.e. 250-kg) bombs, with four on the two wing glove pylons and one on the centerline, but in another spot it seems to say that two bombs are carried on each glove pylon, with one each on the five fuselage hardpoints.

I think the later is the correct one. I will need to check.

April 8, 2011 at 12:04 am in reply to: Floggers in 2011 #2363427

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I don’t think the Al-31 re-engining will happen. the russians did test one item if memory serves right but IAF seems to have decided re-engining is not cost effective.
you are correct about the fuel economy, the current flogger engines are unreliable to some extent and fuel guzzlers, being turbojets.

April 7, 2011 at 4:30 pm in reply to: Floggers in 2011 #2363589

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re IAF, 2022 at most I would think, 2020 more likely. not all airframes got this upg only 40 odd IIRC, rest will be progressively withdrawn through this decade. which is probably why they have not gone for the re-engining proposal with Al-31.

April 7, 2011 at 7:46 am in reply to: Floggers in 2011 #2363726

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IAF continues to use the mig-23UM as type trainers for the floggers. usually a couple are attached to each mig-27 squadron. all mig-23 sqdns have been withdrawn with the mig-23BN being the last to go.
some snaps. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Current/Fighters/MiG23UM/

here’s another album from a visit to AFS hasimara, one of the primary flogger bases of IAF. http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Special/AirfieldVisits/Hasimara/

the mig-27 has received a quite decent upgrade from DARE/HAL.

the upgraded cockpit on right, alongside the older one.

more details here http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/07/special-report-story-of-indias-mig-27.html and here : http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/01/dare-completes-iaf-mig-27-upgrade.html

March 30, 2011 at 6:56 am in reply to: Indian AF News and Discussion Part 16. #2366210

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NAL does all the metal fatigue related tests for the whole IAF fleet of migs and prepares blueprints for rectification work as well. I would say among HAL and NAL they have considerable experience in structures. if a couple of incidents in an otherwise exceptional service record of Dhruv make HAL poor at quality control then every aviation manufacturer in the world is as bad as HAL is made out to be.
what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander eh ?
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