From that link

Sh-3UM-1 Helmet Mounted Integrated Targeting system

So no Top-Owl, Is it comparable ? Or just a cueing system ?

On googling I found the system to be really old, so less capable a bit of a downer.

perhaps they don’t want to splurge on a bird that is on its last legs. IN flankers are far newer.

you should see it beside a mig-21 ! looks a ma hen with her chick. 😀

Rajan, that’s from the indradhanush joint exercise between RAF and IAF. note the ID 2010 made by the personnel on the tarmac.

Why do they need a mock up?

because the real planes would be flying.

interesting swerve, any place on the net where I can read up on it ?

quadbike, I take it you have a graduation and possibly a higher degree. you remember those people called teachers/professors etc who ‘assisted’ you in achieving those degrees ?
and yet, you don’t exactly claim ‘my teacher studied hard and completed his graduation’ or do you ? those are still your degrees for work you did. come to think of it, a plethora of teachers must have assisted your teachers and so on ad infinitum. are you claiming that some caveman shouting the first sounds of human speech was the one who got your degree for you ?

assisted sure, but the arjun is still significantly different from the leo. IA’s own GSQR’s varied widely for a long time making it impossible to base it on any one tank design, leo or not. it was a tank designed to Indian requirements, leo was the gold standard at the time and KM’s inputs were welcome but it was most certainly not based on that design.
a commercial firm like KM does not simply surrender the design of its top end product like the leo for paltry consultation fee.
yes, even the great ajai shukla makes mistakes. the arjun story needs to be told someday, preferably by someone connected to the program like MajGen HM Singh or Gen SRC. perhaps when the reactions from DGMF would be less hostile.
at the end of the day you have to understand that projects designed to do a specific task are constrained by available technology and knowledge and frequently end up resembling each other without being copies.
superficially the Me-109, hurricane and the spitfire all looked similar to each other and yet they couldn’t have been more different !

Foreign Design, Foreign Engine, Foreign Gearbox, Foreign Fire control and Navigation.

bears an uncanny resemblance to the MKI Leopard

genius ! you think there’s a resemblance between these two ? not just any resemblance but ‘uncanny’ {external} resemblance that is enough to convince you that arjun is a foreign design ?! wow, you sir are truly a genius, who sees things that mere mortals can’t dream of.

now imagine my surprise when I find that the abrams, chally, leclerc, k1 all have as ‘uncanny’ resemblance to the leo1 as arjun does ! what does that mean sir ?
are all those tanks designed by krauss maffei ? wow, this fantastic bit of logical reasoning always escaped my limited mental capacity.

It does not matter what you say of my ideas, wont change the fact that when it comes down to it,

exactly and the fact is that your ideas are just that, valid in matt-world perhaps where a wheel manufacturer is ahead of one that makes complete cars just because ‘hey their wheels are good !’ but not in the real world.

to pull Indian Aerospace up by its boot straps a company like SAAB is needed.

nah, what is needed is 50% of the tech access that saab gets and the same level of funding saab gets for comparable projects.

remind me to have this conversation again in 10 years. 😉

I am happy if you do not agree, if you think my ideas are whimsical prove that they are dont just claim it…

it is proven simply by the number of projects and associated technology items they have completed. all you need to do is read.

Like it or not simple fact is Embraer has set goals and met them and is a comercially trading company able to compete in the global market, HAL is not any where near it.

dear matt, why is is so hard for an obviously exceptionally gifted individual like you to understand that HAL’s goals are not the same as embraer’s ?
secondly, we were talking about capability regarding a very specific job, designing and developing modern fighter aircraft, in which embraer’s capability doesn’t even compare with HAL/DRDO’s.

what next, you will claim apple inc. is ahead of HAL in fighter aircraft development because 😮

Like it or not simple fact is apple inc has set goals and met them and is a comercially trading company able to compete in the global market, HAL is not any where near it. :p

you know what, given the regularity with which you bring about crazy ideas you religiously believe are true, I won’t be surprised one bit if you do. 😉