An-148 is advanced due to 70% of its parts comes from Russia. where Myanmar -148 got crashed?. .
So the Ukrainian parts are crap?:rolleyes: And since when do parts decide the capability of an aircraft manufacturer? It’s their own design and development. If they wanted Antonov could source parts from countless Western manufacturers instead, but it’d mean moving away from their traditional vendor base in the ex-Soviet region and push up costs astronomically.
And the best plane in the world can crash, so it means nothing. A number of Russian and Western airliners have crashed at some point or the other including the Tu-204.
It is not just funding/Politics but Ukraine demographic crises are 6 times worse than Russia in year 2011. No prospect of funding to turn around it.
There will be simply no skill people available for An-70 production line in year 2014-2015 in reasonable quanities. As i said Ukriane cannot remain independent between two blocks.
That’s debatable. There are plenty of unemployed Ukrainian youth to train, and plenty of defence/aerospace professionals in want of work. Many of them even work in China and the West now, and I don’t think they’ll die of old age in 5 years.;)
IL-76 started at 40 tons. now it is at 60 tons. MTA engines are already more powerfull than KC-390 by 20%. It will start at 20 tons. and will end at 30 to 40 tons. It has same x-section as IL-476. elongating a plane is not big deal over long term.
Again, pray what does the engine have to do with it? The An-70’s engines serve its role and payload range quite well.
Btw no matter how powerful the MTA’s engines are it’ll remain an MTA with max 20-22 ton payload. And if stretching the IL-476 would be no big deal why didn’t they do it for both the prototypes? In any case, as with MTA it’s in a different weight class altogether from the An-70.
It is myth that An-70 is more modern designed. IL-476 is suppose to get new wing and FBW with all glass cockpit.
The MiG-29SMT got new wings, FBW and glass cockpit. That didn’t make it a brand new plane.
Look, man, ultimately there’s no way you’ll get me to agree that the An-70 and Antonov as a whole are inherently unviable and uncompetitive. Definitely not compared to the IL-476.
It takes alot of money and time to produce 21st century world certified transport. Ask Embarer. how much it is going to spend on KC-390 and almost 90% of its parts will be outside Brazil on which it does not have any IP control.
And yet Antonov is developing them with less funding than any of its Russian or Western counterparts. You finally see my point?
There is no problem with IL-76 spares except it is the most used transport in the world. Volga Denpr is commerical operator of IL-76 and it will order even more IL-476 once production runs up and running.
I’m sure the RuAF hasn’t had any (publicly revealed) spares problems with its MiG-29 or Flanker fleet either. But the IAF(among other customers) has had. So yes, it’s a problem.
IL-476 will come in AWAC/Tanker etc and 100 before 2020 is very realistic figure. Unless you see production line prepared for An-70 at this place. there is no chance of An-70 being successful.
http://rt.com/programs/russia-close-up/birthplace-lenin-ulyanovsk-aviation/
The An-70 is two-thirds through testing and there’s talk of putting it an production as early as next year.
As for the IL-476, both prototypes are still under construction and I doubt they’ll fly before next year. And then there’s years of test flights and certification left to do. I doubt it’ll achieve serial production before 2016. And initial production rates are likely to be low, so 100 before 2020 is an impossibility.
Heck, if the An-70 proves to be effective enough in service the IL-476 may even end up sharing the fate of the IL-112. From 70 planned orders to cancellation halfway through test flights.:p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-112
Uh what? Most An-148s have been made in Russia. And if we look at order book, Superjet is doing far better with foreign customers (or total customers for that matter). In a year or two Superjet will roll right past An-148 in production numbers.
The An-148s are only being manufactured in Russia because of Russian funding and involvement(i.e. the parts) and because the production rate at AVIANT was too slow to meet demand. That doesn’t take away from Antonov’s capability in developing it despite their financial condition and lack of international collaboration compared to Sukhoi.
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