Thanks Twin. Fugly radar mast aside, stately lines.
I like how they are continuing with RBU too, system is critical for sub defense IMO.
Why did the Russian Navy exclude the RBU-6000 from the Stereguschy and Admiral Gorshkov class?:confused:
Do they believe that with Klub ASROC missiles in UKSK they won’t be needing it?
Or is it a matter of deck space(it occupies the same deck footprint as an 8-cell UKSK VLS)?
Layout of the ship
Two things I find disturbing about that design:
-The obsolete LW-08/RAWL radar on the rear mast. Makes an odd contrast to the cutting-edge MF-STAR AESA. Why couldn’t the IN go for a SMART-L instead?:confused:
-A lot of unused deck space that could be used for additional VLS cells. I count 16UKSK VLS and 48 Barak-8 cells whereas there’s enough room for another 8-16UKSKs and 24 Barak-8s easily. The Indian Navy should have gone the approach the Russians took with the 22350 and Krivak-4 derivatives to pack in as man additional missiles as possible, especially given the Kolkata class are expected to divide their UKSKs between BrahMos and Nirbhay LACMs.
What’s PS-ed? (Pic 2 seems of the same series, pic 1 and 4 a bit earlier, without A/C, but taken around the same time. Pic 3 just for showing it is a common angle for a photo shot)
How recent are those pics? That deck seems a tad too… well, ‘clean’ or ‘polished’ to me. I recall it having more tyre marks/stains in the past.:confused:
http://flotprom.ru/news/?ELEMENT_ID=100841
zvezdochka shipyard laid down project 20180TV naval weapons transport ship designed by ALMAZ design bureau.
Photos of the ceremony:
http://www.klubsmi.ru/culture/5665-444.html
http://flotprom.ru/media/photo/index.php?PAGE_NAME=section&SECTION_ID=3781#gallery
Thanks. Interesting ship. Are there any other classes of auxiliary vessels that can reload ASMs and other weapon systems at sea?
Higher resolution images are now available.
I’m curious about that grille on the air intake. Does it serve as some sort of RAM blocker or just dust protection?
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1247/d39c7da07c35.jpg
Topol-E launch. I believe this is a target for interception tests.
You mean for the S-500? Or do you mean testing its anti-interception measures?
Witcha, you have misrepresented my views entirely and I was fairly correct that I made no such post of the sort.
In fact, I supported the MMRCA and pointed out it would continue.
Here is my reply to your post:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1660138&postcount=804
Again, care to point where I said the MMRCA should be cancelled? As matter of fact, ever since I joined, I have been a firm supporter of the 3 tier IAF structure, HCA/MMRCA/LCA.
If not, all I can conclude is that you seem to be adept at making things up.
You are far too hasty to come up with such conclusions. I assure you that I had no malicious intent in mind when I said it, and I stated ‘IIRC’ because I couldn’t say for sure it was you.
The post in question dates back to before the one you quoted and it did happen, though I can’t say for sure if it was you or some other posters I was arguing with at the time. I guess I don’t recall correctly here and apologise to you for that, but I wasn’t making anything up; such a thing was posted in a conversation I had.
The prototype of the MiG-29K (number 311) was loaded by crane onto the deck of the Indian aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya at Severodvinsk last month. The Sevmash shipyard said the conversion work ex- Gorshkov of the Russian navy are 90% complete.
Is that the non-flying prototype that was used to test the aircraft restraining system? Wasn’t that already done last year?
Apparently there is a rumor also about a Pakistani Chinese system (imported) similar to the S-300. Anyone heard anything about this?
Rumor also has it that PAF has been ordered to shoot down intruders. Don’t know if that includes drones, but from my personal assessment, yes, drones will be shot down by the PAF and will not require a political thumbs up.
Are you referring to the FT-2000?
I was not speculating… I posted that 054B picture to have any more of the same CG and what is the fact about it. I couldn’t find any similar CG after searching so thought of asking if any of you guys have anymore of this version.
That picture is from FORCE magazine and found it interesting as it was a good evolution of the current 054A. So my question still remains.. anymore pictures of this model and what (if any) details of the Type-054Bor what ever version that is to succeed the 054A.
TIA
FORCE magazine? You mean Prasun Sengupta? You realise over half of what that guy publishes is fantasy?:D
I’m not sure the Type 054B in your image even exists, because one of the reason the Type 052C destroyer hasn’t been built in numbers is because its Aegis-style radar and combat management system are very expensive. The Type 054 is a frigate that doesn’t have fleet air defence as a primary objective, and as such it’s better to produce it in series with the Fregat-analogue radar; that’s more than adequate for it.
Probably this is what awaits India also on all the big items procured from America and P-8I might become a prime example in the future when we try to integrate our own stuff or modifications.
No worse than Russia suspending sales of certain hi-end items and restricting others because of their disputes with China copying/reverse-engineering their products.
That is an interesting development….should have been in Indian Navy news and discussion as it will relate to the tender for 2nd line of submarines.
from the article.
Is there any info on what the Vietnamese subs will be getting?…If I’m not wrong the entire submarine deal for the 6 x Kilo class sub for Vietnam is around $3.6billion where as the 6 x Kilo class is for just $1.8billion. So can they be the first of the Kilo class operators who could be using the AIP?
So if the Vietnamese Kilos are to be equipped with AIP, then it has to be a Kristal variant of “regular” AIP with onboard hydrogen, or its the new system that is mentioned here???
From what I gather all Russian AIP systems(till date there have been three separate research programs: the Krystall-27, the one mentioned above and a MESMA analogue) are still in the R & D stage and no scaled up model has been built for testing on a submarine yet.
The reason being it would be expensive to do so without firm orders; since the Russian Navy apparently settled for higher-endurance Lithium-ion batteries on the Ladas rather than AIP and no export customer till date seems to have asked for it.
When the Indian Navy started mooting its new AIP submarine tender in 2009 or so Rubin partnered up with Fincantieri and offered the S1000, an Amur variant with a fuel cell AIP from an Italian firm. So I don’t think any Russian systems are ready for production yet.
The problem with a self destruct feature or booby trap is that this is a multi-use UAV. It has to be handled between flights, refuelled, & undergo regular maintenance. Self-destruct features & booby traps make it potentially dangerous to handle.
No more than munitions carried on a UCAV. At the least they could just include a system to mess up the electronics with an electric overload or a small explosive charage.
I wonder when(not if) the Russians and Chinese will get access to this. This might just be the breakthrough they need for their own UAV programs.
I hope this motivates future designers to include a ‘kill-switch’ in expendable assets like UAVs. Something like a hidden explosive charge that will destroy all sensitive electronics via radio command.
Don’t you think retirement happened mostly because of force reduction :p ? Tu-22M3s have gone through repairs, its not like cannibalizing has been that prevelent in the fleet, AFAIK.
Glass cockpit is easy, that would be the simplest part of any upgrade.
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=60&u=15113927Gefest stand.
Thanks, man.:D
Now if only they could scale up the Su-34’s optronic targeting system, phased array radar and EW system for the Backfire…;)