Yanks are speeding it up mainly coz, they don’t want that much needed billions getting caught up in scandal or the contract getting cancelled when political situation change.

And all the deals you mentioned are on US terms. Wait and watch in the future how they will be inspected by the Yanks. Also, with P-8s IN did not even have the voice to oppose the US standard refueling unit. Which mean, if IN needs to have the aircraft to be refueled, they will need to buy American…

I think a lot of the Indian defence jingo community is overly suspicious of the US. I personally see no need for a great drama about the inspections: They’re supposed to check the effectiveness of the equipment after all.

It’s not like the Americans are going to invade us or sabotage our equipment for the sake of Pakistan or China(whom they like far, far less than us). The only time they ever antagonized us in this regard is the nuclear tests, and given all the restrictions our government’s signed up to(the nuclear deal, for instance) it’s not likely we’ll test again anytime soon.

^^ well we can call it that way….
Btw, RosoboronExport is promoting the Pr.21300 submarine rescue ship to Indian Navy and I feel it would be a good investment.
Sometimes, the acquisition is with crappy attitude….In the case of P-8, it was hurried up without any tender as if it was the sole component missing in the Indian Navy arsenal.. :rolleyes:

Earlier we saw a single vendor deal for Scorpene as a fast pace acquisition to built up the force. But the result now is neither is the sub available and the cost is obscene for a basic SSK. An AIP addition to the Scorpene would make acquiring N-subs directly from Russia cheaper!

Vikie is now delayed by 5-7 months
IAC-I will arrive only in 2018 and….
First of the P-17A can only be dreamt off after 2017..

That’s more a fault of
-Unreliability/tendency of delays of the supplier in the case of Indian shipyards and Russian firms
-Improper cost evaluation on the Indian side in the case of the Scorpene deal(The french suddenly slashed costs by a considerable amount to get the Indian MoD to approve the deal, if only the babus had seen whether the low prices were viable we wouldn’t have to suffer subsequent re-inflations of cost)
-Inadequacy of Indian infrastructure for the ADS and the Scorpene TOT.

Western suppliers are overall pretty reliable for single-vendor deals. The C-130s, C-17s and P-8s are all going to be delivered on or in advance of schedule.

So now we have tenders even for components and subsystems?!

Let’s hope there isn’t an MMRCA like saga for every nut and bolt that goes into the Navy’s ships.

Would it be possible to replace the Kinzhal launchers with 6-cell Shtil VLS modules?

Ah well. Look at the bright side. Aside from the boiler problem everything seems to gone well during the trials.

http://www.itar-tass.com/c9/522694.html

The most difficult components of the test program the aircraft carrier “Vikramaditya” succeed
MOSCOW, September 18. / ITAR-TASS /. Routine command aircraft carrier “Vikramaditya”, consisting of specialists from Sevmash generally pleased with the results the test ship at sea, despite the shortcomings in its power plant. This was announced today by ITAR-TASS responsible deliverer carrier Igor Leonov.
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He stressed that “despite technical defects in the boiler room of the ship power installation, commissioning team of Sevmash positive about the outcome of the tests.”
“We believe – said Leone – that the most difficult components of the test program are successful ship.” “The main purpose of the aircraft carrier, – he said, – provision of deployment and use of carrier-based aircraft. Recognized that the most tricky part of the test – this test aircraft and hardware ship. As part of these tests the aircraft carrier” Vikramaditya “was made about 100 successful flights by Russian pilots. All flights have been highly appreciated and our Navy, and Indian experts. ”

Told deliverer ship, “simultaneously with working all the equipment and systems to ensure safety / performance brake machines and restraints / were optimized transport and refueling aircraft, flight dispatch support in various flight conditions, at different times, with different flight loads.” “In fact, during these tests, we studied the organization vibrant communities carriers” – said its executive deliverer.

“The second objective of the tests – he said – is working out real operation of dozens of modern electronic weapons systems.” “This problem has also been successfully implemented in full” – summed Leonov.

Considering the Su-33 had its effective fuel and payload capacity reduced by 1/3rd on STOBAR ops, I’m surprised the MiG-29K only has 1000kg knocked off.

But yeah, any weight savings due to removal of wing folding mechanisms and increased use of composites etc in the MiG-35 would be negligible.

Don’t get surprised if by chance it becomes the IAC-II. I personally would have like to see the larger Pr.1143.7 being dusted up.

Two different case.
The above ship is going to be built ground up from fresh sheets of steel.

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And? That only increases the chances of something going wrong given their lack of experience with doing something new in this area.

In any case the IAC-2 is very likely to be a CATOBAR design, which means the IN will look elsewhere, like DCN International.

Hmmm….Bad decision…

But there is good news also, like below… vital for supporting the fleet deployment. Hope the number include good replenishment ships
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120914/175960111.html

The experts in India have not yet displayed their understanding for the need of auxillary ships and its significance in the making of a blue water navy.

True, and sad. We should be placing orders for dozens of tankers, tugs and replenishment ships at our various private shipyards. But things are better than they were a decade ago.