Kuznetsov:

Are those Kinzhal SAMs or some air-launched missile for the Su-33s?

I think the consensus has been J-20 is clearly longer than both T-50 and Raptor.

It will need some powerful engines to deal with all that (likely) weight.

If so, it probably will exceed the T-50 in both range and internal payload. A little depressing to think about from an Indian POV…

Word is, as with the PAK FA the AL-31 won’t be the ‘final engine’. Assuming the WS-xx that replaces it is successful, it should take care of the weight problem.

^I know not much can be done with the 4 corner positions. Hence I asked for additional platforms/deck extensions like the Kuznetsov, which is different and CAN be made to have enough below-deck room for Kashtan/Pantsir and a VLS. Just one would suffice for 48xKlinok; the Kuznetsov has four of them with 192 cells in all.

What a pathetically ran programme. The people in charge must be held responsible for the delay and fired. Yes people may argue it has given us a lot of technologies and all, but with this much time on most other countries the results yielded would have been considerably more.

Obsolete by the time it enters service and the AMCA is going to be another comedy show.

Sell it to the Mahindra’s or Tata’s and see them turn it around easy.

Will never happen. The various PSU labor unions(There are at least 4 for every one, generally divided by caste or religion of its members) are a major source of votes for the ruling government.

Well, unless AK Antony prevents the IAF from ordering more MKIs or MMRCAs as replacement in order to keep the Tejas relevant(I can see that happening) I can’t see it serving for anything more than a filler to increase numbers by the time Tejas Mk 2 comes out(Which is likely to be past 2020).

At this rate, the MOD had better start drafting a tender for F-MRCA between the F-35, KF-X, ATD-X and TF-X for fifth-gen medium fighters, because the AMCA is unlikely to enter service before 2030.:(

I wasn’t exactly proposing C-130j as an avro replacement 🙂 Shouldn’t the government actually wait for any of the private players to open up an assembly line before taking such a decision ?

My dear fellow, how do you expect anyone to open an assembly line for anything unless there’s demand for it first? Why should Tata and co invest billions until they have an assurance of orders(and hopefully, funding) from the Defence Ministry first? It’s the same as in Western development programs(Remember EADS threatening to cancel A-400M development because partner nations wouldn’t commit to enough orders and funding?). Also ‘Socialist’ countries like Russia.

That’s precisely what has stopped private players from getting involved in defence production till now: Lack of orders. The PSUs are all giants with over 50 years of monopoly in their respective areas plus high-level connections in the government and till now both they and the Defence Ministry babus and netas have been highly reluctant to allow any private players to rise up and compete against them.

Hence HAL has been taking on virtually every project, be it repair, modernization, production, or R & D for fighters, trainers, transport planes, helicopters, UAVs etc.

This is a long overdue decision. We should have had a private assembly line for the LUH and MMRCA tenders(HAL already has the Dhruv, LCH, LOH, and Su-30MKI production responsibility, and is lacking adequate production capacity for both, necessating new greenfield plant set-ups)..

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That’s not AK630…. might be a Goalkeeper CIWS (or chinese equivalent Type 730). In addition 76mm + 2x 20mm > combination suggests a swicht to mainly western weaponry.

Well, yes. It’s a design offered for export, and until recently the Gayduck was also supposed to have Western weapon systems; this got changed.

But you’ll note that aside from the radar, the hull and superstructure design seems to match what snake65 posted. I am of the opinion that the under-construction Gayduck was originally derived from this design.

http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2012/07/russia-india-military-industrial.html

So, a third trio of Talwars is confirmed? Niiiiiice.
However, why are they going to be the same as Batch 2 ships? I would think VLS Shtil would be a no brainer option, since RuNavy ships built at the same time will use the system…

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/–UzP2yjzXiQ/UAXyQjRj0pI/AAAAAAAABgo/H_0qaLDdBJI/s1600/SLEP+for+P-15+DDG.jpg

And Delhi destroyers will be modernized with VLS Shtil? Wtf?

I would take anything Prasun says with a grain of salt. I’ll wait for confirmation from Indian or Russian media before believing in this.

If it is true, it’s a poor decision to rely on pure imports yet again. Especially taking into account capacity at Yantar(already assigned to build 6 more Talwars for the Russian Navy, likely to result in more delays). At the least they should have opted for a TOT agreement to build the next 3 at an Indian shipyard.

Some time ago Pipavav had announced an agreement with the Severnoye Design Bureau to build more Talwars locally if the Indian Navy ordered them. But we know AK Antony and Pallam Raju’s attitude towards private shipyards…:mad: