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  • in reply to: UK to ditch F-35B for F-35C? #2392014
    Stryker73
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    Isn’t it possible that we’re going to buy both versions?

    Again, isn’t the whole idea to rationalise defence that we’re looking to cut down on the different types of aircraft in the fleet and not add more maintenance costs as a result?

    in reply to: UK to ditch F-35B for F-35C? #2392059
    Stryker73
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    Liam Fox, Defence Secretary has been interview recently in the US and said that whilst numbers procured have not been decided the important thing is that we will be ‘in the programme’ so I think we can rule out going the F18/Rafale route.

    in reply to: UK to ditch F-35B for F-35C? #2392116
    Stryker73
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    Not at all sure UK paid that money. But wait and see. UK STOVL is dead and good too

    So you would rather believe the Evening Standard than the US DoD website official news release?
    http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4382

    Lockheed Martin Corp., Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., Ft. Worth, Texas, is being awarded a $13,035,539 modification to a previously awarded cost-plus-award-fee contract (N00019-02-C-3002) to incorporate the shipborne rolling vertical landing capability into the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter for the United Kingdom. Work will be performed at Fort Worth, Texas (54 percent); Warton, United Kingdom (35 percent); El Segundo, Calif. (7 percent); and Orlando, Fla. (4 percent). Work is expected to be completed in October 2013. Contract funds will not expire at the end of the current fiscal year. The Naval Air Systems Command, Patuxent River, Md., is the contracting activity.

    Look i’d love F35C too ahead of the B version, but you need to look at facts when they hit you in the face er, Ironduke šŸ˜‰

    in reply to: UK to ditch F-35B for F-35C? #2392120
    Stryker73
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    I really have no idea why various ‘Aircraft Spoters’ here do not get that UK is, very rapidly, deciding that STOVL F35 B is both too expensive and much less capable than, for example CATOBAR F35 C.

    So rapidly that its just paid LM another £7m to develop SRVL?

    in reply to: UK to ditch F-35B for F-35C? #2392171
    Stryker73
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    David Cameron ā€˜rules out slash and burn defence cuts’
    Robert Fox and Martin Bentham
    08.10.10

    David Cameron has intervened to prevent ā€œslash and burnā€ cuts to the Armed Forces after holding a private meeting with defence chiefs

    “…Plans to use vertical take-off aircraft on the carriers have been abandoned, however, and cheaper jets that take off and land by using a catapult and wire will be used instead. The second carrier might also be converted from its conventional use to operate as a ā€œfloating platformā€ for commandos.

    The Navy is also expected to be allowed to buy new frigates for 2020, and the Royal Marines will be retained instead of being merged with the Army’s Paratroop Regiment, as some reports had suggested. However, the helicopter budget is expected to be reduced by as much as Ā£1 billion. Ministers are expected to insist that this will not affect operations in Afghanistan.

    …The plan now is to have a rolling review looking at all aspects of defence management, the armed forces, and equipment procurement, over the next two years or so. There will have to be some cuts, though nothing on the scale previously suggested. One of the target areas is the helicopter budget. The number of machines will be reduced. The Trident replacement will be delayed by a year or two, but will go ahead in one form or another — as will the aircraft carrier programme, though with a different variant of the Lockheed Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter….”

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23886028-david-cameron-rules-out-slash-and-burn-defence-cuts.do

    The rolling review makes sense, but I don’t believe for a minute STOVL has been abandoned so it calls into question imo, a lot of the other statements made in the article

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2392485
    Stryker73
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    The only way I see an aquisition of F35C happening is this:

    QE is built as intended and is a glorified LPH with occasional Harriers onboard, F35 purchases are delayed till when PoW is fitted with EMALS sometime in 2018 upon which time QE becomes an LPH/is put into extended readiness.

    Have to say the F35C story being reported as fact almost in that Evening Standard story does make me doubt the authenticity of the rest of the article. Let’s see, not long now.

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2392508
    Stryker73
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    I agree re, the F35C Liger – it would involve up front costs on EMALS that we just dont have.

    in reply to: CVF Construction #2025299
    Stryker73
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    The London Evening Standard article on the defence review thread suggest the cuts will be nothing like feared and we’ll have a rolling 2 year review.

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2392661
    Stryker73
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    Well this appears promising, of all the newspaper rumourmongering I hope this turns out near the mark!
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23886028-david-cameron-rules-out-slash-and-burn-defence-cuts.do

    Summary:

    No slash and burn, instead a 2 year rolling review

    STOVL abandoned in favour of cat & traps.

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2392731
    Stryker73
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    Oh please stop quoting US websites trashing the UK health service, that’s a country that doesn’t even bother looking after the health of its poorest citizens.

    Wait until we know the full story, but what ever way you mix it you’re not going to get your 2 CVF and amphibious capability and 563 escorts.

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2392957
    Stryker73
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    Navy to reduce to smallest size ever to save carriers
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8049674/Navy-to-reduce-to-smallest-size-ever-to-save-carriers.html

    Don’t click the link for your own sake Liger!

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2393000
    Stryker73
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    People need to get realistic i’m afraid, Liger the UK has a defecit of Ā£150+ bn, much of it structural.

    Added to the fact that the defence budget alone has a defecit on top of that of £38bn, and is facing 10% cuts AND the Trident renewal on top you need to face facts the UK is going to lose some capabilities.

    Britain isn’t going to lose influence in the world by losing carrier strike (we’ve barely had anything of the sort anyway for the past decade) or amphibious capability. It WILL lose influence if it financially cripples itself by burying its head in the sand. We cannot hope to have a capable armed forces if we are weak economically.

    I think the RN are coming round to the idea that they should accept one carrier as the best of a bad job. They have everything stacked against them. The financial crisis and the fact the army has all the cards with Afghanistan. I just don’t know how they’re going to get out of the contract to build PoW however.

    They need to be VERY careful they don’t overplay the weak hand they have – the government may just suck up the penalties and figure the saving of not doing carrier strike for the next 20 years might be worth it.

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2393090
    Stryker73
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    No agreement reached at the latest NSC meeting, the sticking point still said to be the carriers.

    in reply to: CVF Construction #2025376
    Stryker73
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    Frigates are useful, but their day as the primary weapon of a navy should be up. Nelson no longer applies.

    I never knew Lewis Page contributed on the forum! 😮

    in reply to: UK Defence Review Part III #2393535
    Stryker73
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    The FT is reporting that both CVF’s are likely to get the go-ahead, though the seconds configuration is unkown.

    The Treasury wants real-terms cuts of 10 per cent but military advice is that would require axing a range of capabilities. ā€œSensitive decisionsā€ outlined to the NSC include loss of amphibious warfare capability and deep cuts to frigate and destroyer numbers.

    Senior defence figures expect stark choices will convince the Treasury to impose single-figures cuts.

    For the full story, google ‘Aircraft carrier orders likely to survive’

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