Four years ago, I ventured into this forum as a founder member of the organising team for Fighter Meet. Lea Aviation (as it was at that time) comprised some of the best known names in the business as the organisers. Ray Hanna, Mark Hanna, John Watts, Arthur Gibson, Paul Warren Wilson, myself and others, combined to stage a fabulous event. I offered the suggestion that I might re-introduce such an event via this forum. I was astonished to receive much negative comment from aviation enthusiasts.
Quite apart from the old financial objections, I found the experience to be disheartening. Thirty years ago, Fighter Meet was new and exciting, but I feel that the fans have now become jaded and would only complain at the high entrance price required to stage such an event now. Such shows cost a lot of money and sponsorship just does not exist. If it did, I’d be in the business!
If I remember rightly, Ray and Mark Hanna held a dispensation down to 30 feet for air displays. At Duxford, this could be measured by the windsock pole on the Tower. I think it was considered unwise to prove anything less due to the risk of being lopped at the knee by a passing warbird.
If I remember rightly, Ray and Mark Hanna held a dispensation down to 30 feet for air displays. At Duxford, this could be measured by the windsock pole on the Tower. I think it was considered unwise to prove anything less due to the risk of being lopped at the knee by a passing warbird.
I don’t know if this is a contribution worthy of forumites consideration but I admit to being somewhat confused.
In my time with OFMC, I remember Mark being really excited by the acquisition of this Casa. A lot of time and trouble went in to getting the thing to Duxford in the first place, due to it being restorable to flight status. Moocher has already posted about the three weeks he spent disassembling it in Spain and his opinion then was of an airframe that would take a lot of work, but could be returned to the air over time. Mark and Ray both considered the airframe to be a valuable “trader” at the very least.
I don’t understand why the wing spars are now considered to be so badly corroded they couldn’t support the weight of two Merlins! Having said that, I have not personally looked at the thing in 10 years, but assume its sojourn under cover in recent years could not have rotted the airframe THAT badly.
Interestingly, nobody here seems to know what IWM’s position is on this aircraft. Has anybody asked them? What I do know is that they wanted this type specifically for a very long time. I was standing next to Ray at the Southend auction when he turned and apologised to the IWM representative present for withdrawing from the bidding at £20,000. They were sorry too, but quite understanding. My assumption therefore, is that one way or another, they do intend to restore it to exhibition status eventually. Like everything though, money has to be made available first.
The arrival of the La9 at OFMC put any Casa restoration on the back burner,
but even the idea of turning preparatory work over to volunteers from Tiger Squadron were shot down by Mark on the grounds that he felt a full, professional restoration was more appropriate.
I guess all I’m saying guys is that perhaps we should give the IWM a break and assume they know what they are doing.
Oh, and finally, I do also remember Mark saying it was built to take Merlins, not Jumos.
The Nimrod had a tv crew on board. We linked up and stooged around Folkestone before heading for Manston. We also linked up with Arthur Gibson in his camera ship GFOTO for some air to air photography.
A picture on the water too! Must be a rarity there Joe. In keeping with the thread…..looks cold.
No sir. John was killed in a Tornado collision in 1988. Doing his day job.
John was British. And hellishly proud of it , sir!
From what I remember some clown wanted to do air to air with a Nimrod so we were airborne for at least another hour!
Then we had to down some champagne, would rather have had a hot cup of tea.
Well at least I didn’t wear a red nose for the occasion!:dev2:
It’s been more than 25 years. Really good talking to you Pete. We should catch up soon.
Hold on Pete. I’ve just remembered when we got to Manston we still had more than 1/3rd full tanks remaining! Did we really need to freeze all the way from Marseille?
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I would’nt have missed it for the world Pete.
Tiger stripes
I admit a personal bias here, but any fighter types in tiger stripes get my approval. Further, Cliff Spink is an all round good bloke and deserves the respect.
My experience was the very reason John parked outside in the first place!
Back to the thread however, I found it strange that there was no other method of keeping warm in GBLSC. We did the ferry in February of 1985, and for most of the journey, only wore lightweight flightsuits. For some reason, we flew at a higher altitude (8000 ft) across France and all of us froze our nads off. Good planning that. Fly low level across hot desert and such, but when you get to France – in February – climb higher!
There was no way any of us were going to attempt firing up the on-board AGA tho!
Or were you around when Robs asked why his P2 had acquired a redesigned wingtip?
Incredible! No smoking “on the ramp”, but just climb into the fuel vapour-filled cabin and strike a light to get the heater fired up! I have Seneca time logged too, but have never come across such a dangerous concept before.
Now David, I never actually “worked” on the old girl at Barkston Heath. I might have used a bit of wet and dry on the outer hull for 5 minutes but the memories I have are of my car receiving an etch-primer overspray (shouldn’t have left it parked in the hangar) and the honour of meeting John Cruickshank VC when he visited us during the Cat’s facelift.