Im not their biggest fan but we all have choice so if you don’t like their service, terms or conditions… choose to fly elsewhere! Simple really..

I don’t fly with Ryanair – never have, never will. That doesn’t stop me having an opinion of them, the damage they’ve done, and the dubious business practices they employ.

Andy

Excellent decision… Hopefully they end up in the European court and they’ll be told the ruling applies everywhere in Europe!

And appeals that tie up Scumbag O’Riley and costs him and his company time and money can’t be bad even if they eventually win.

Andy

So, a Turkish airline flying to Greece… That should be fun!

Andy

Andy

I am saying I don’t know where they got the 10t figure from, because the passengers and baggage figure that they would use to offload what they stated comes in at about 4.2t. Something doesn’t add up.

One of the linked reports says the aeroplane was overfuelled by 10 tons – that could be read to mean not that it was 10 tons over MTOW, but that the uplift was 10 tons more than requested, taking the aircraft over MTOW but not 10 tons over (I.e if the uplift had been correct the a/c would have been well under MTOW).

Andy

wesley

You are right, because the figures don’t add up. They offloaded 37 passengers. Using standard passenger weights that airlines use, even if they were all males this would only equate to 3.25 tonnes. factor in a couple of bags each at standard weights and you are looking in total about 4.36 tonnes. Quite where they got 10 tonnes from is anyone’s guess. It is the media afterall. Mustn’t let the truth get in the way of a good story :rolleyes:

Reading the two reports (that do differ in several respects, not least the number of pax offloaded) – it seems like the uplift was 10 tons over, taking the a/c over MTOW, and the 30 pax (or 37 depending on who you believe) and baggage had to be offloaded to bring the a/c down to MTOW (still more than required trip fuel but legal to dispatch).

Birmingham still uses bowsers rather than hydrants – at least on some stands.

Andy

Tigercat “Here Kitty Kitty” / Race 55 pulling hard as it approaches pylon 4 during the September 2010 National Championship Air Races in Reno – she was running at over 400mph at the time

Andy

The FOD induced fire seems to have led to the identification of weaknesses in the electrical system that require to redesign part of it.

So now it appears we can have good FOD, and bad FOD. We all know most FOD is bad, but this FOD seems to have done some good in that it has exposed a design flaw! :p

While I agree with most of what you say, it is not accurate to say they have been grounded for 3 weeks. Several 787s have made flights, including the incident airplane, which has been fully repaired and returned to Seattle yesterday. I believe it would be more accurate to say that flight testing has been suspended for 3 weeks.

Whilst correct, there was very close liaison and agreement between Boeing and the Feds associated with the terms under which those ferry flights could take place. The fact that the fleet remains effectively grounded suggests that either (a) the avionics box does not meet certification standards and performing further flight tests with the “old” box would be a waste of resources (i.e. the testing would have to be repeated with the “new” box, or (b) the design flaw identified by the FOD is a sufficient threat to flight safety (again with the exclusion of the recent ferry flights) that test flying cannot continue until a new box is designed and installed.

Andy

The TSA view is arrogant in the extreme – using time as an excuse for justifying the use technology that at BEST compromises a passengers’ privacy and at worst could be dangerous to health is simply not on. If pay-downs are the only really SAFE way of doing things, then pat-downs it has to be and in which case the TSA needs to employ a lot more staff to keep the queues moving. And as a frequent traveller typically flying at least one round trip a week, I’ve yet to be convinced that my being regularly exposed to even low-level radition is cumulatively over time a good thing for me. So yes, I dislike the whole body scanners and I’ll do my best to avoid them whenever possible.

The other thing that needs to be implemented right NOW is profiling – the intelligence and technology is there to allow profiling to be a meaningful part of a multi-layered strategy on security. And I’m sorry, if your face doesn’t fit the profile, it SHOULD take longer and require closer examination no matter what your gender or ethnicity.

Andy