Thanks for that, that stops that urban myth in its tracks.
The RAF museum contacted me today and said they have found some information and will post it today. All I need now is the time to look at all of this stuff.
I have now seen the full report, there are no pictures of the aircraft and it looks like the pilot was removed from flying Canberras also there was a set of design changes asked for in the Canberra controls. It will take me a few days to digest the full report but I think the crux of it was that there was no mechnical falure and that no one party was fully to blame. Ironically this incident may have saved other crew. It would be interesting to know if the later designs were prone to these kind of incident. One source has told me that many of the B.2’s crashed just before landing as the engine cut off was next to the undercarridge control and the pilots would accidently press the wrong crontrol. I have not checked how acurate this information is.
I visited Kew all of 157 Squadrons records are missing from ~may 1943 until 1944 the only thing I could find was that the pilots last flight was on the 28th then they vanished off the records. I have been advised that Hendon is now the place to look.
Thanks that is an excellent site. Hopefully this will help me find more details when I visit kew.
Dg
I have now read parts of the Air Incident report which has two interesting points: The first is they are desperately trying to say that the pilot only just passed night flying and was only just suitable to do this. The next in the conclusions that this was the 7th fatal accident at night in a Canberra B2 since December 1952 to not be caused by mechanical failure. It also looks like they were intrested in the oxygen supply but nothing substantial.
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Ah finally got more info the coroners report was printed in the times:
13th Jan 1955 here is a summary:
Verdicts of Accidental Death were recorded by the Coroner, Mr. E. A. Williams, at an inquest in Hertford yesterday on Pilot Officer Raymond H. Sholl, of Livingstone Road, Thornton Heath. Surrey, and Flying Officer Hubert E. Thorne, of Woodlands, Wimborne, Dorset.
FO C. B. Crombie, of Hendon. giving evidence, said that the crash occurred half-an-hour after the take-off from Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire. They had reached a height of 32,0O9ft. “There was tremendous turbulence, The aircraft went out of my control, performed various manoeuvres and in the end went into a dive, turning left, from which I was unable to recover. The aircraft had been difficult to control because of the bad weather”. He complained that the navigators “got on their backs.” because of the bad turbulence, eventually he ordered them to abandon the aircraft.
Crombie told the court that because of the extreame G he couldnt grab the release and as his hand was pushed up he pulled the ejecting mechanism. The others were trapped by the G forces which the coroner accepted. FO Crombie landed in Star street in Ware about 2 miles away from the crash site. He had burns on his face and a fractured arm.
Quick update,
from talking to some of the locals the aircraft circled around the area a few times before it crashed. Once it went down it left debris across a wide area. Looking at the situation as there was only one ejector seat it would be disturbing to know that you could eject leaving the rest of your crew go down with the aircraft. If it had circled around a few times there must of been some discussion between the flight crew.
I am also interested in this aircraft as it “landed” in my back garden the only picture I can find so far is the small part that can still be seen in the church http://www.wareonline.co.uk/news/article.asp?id=79
I have also tried to find out why it happened and what happen to the pilot who escaped my research is currenlty early days …
Dg