Yes its just from out of my mind. But if u look at their arsenal you will see numbers rather technology is the way they play by.

The US lost Vietnam because of the lack of Political will not from a Military Loss. As the public grew tired on the high causalities and the support of a corrupt South Vietnamese Goverment.

Clearly, the US and its Allies didn’t loose because of North Vietnams Superior Technology or Military Tactics. Regardless, I am not going to get into any flame wars over the subject. The topic is the ROKAF (i.e. South Korean Air Force) not the politics of the Vietnam War.

True this and the propaganda war was lost first. Troops those were drafted in were more eager to survive and go home rather than win the war.

Well, that interesting question coming from a Australian. As most believe the Flanker is unbeatable and superior to everything except the Raptor. As I said the question is not that the Typhoon maybe better than say a J-11B, Su-30 MKI, or Su-35. Yet, how much better………..

Quote: http://www.dera.gov.uk/newsite/home_2.htm

British Defense experts made an attempt to compare the newest Russian fighter SU-35 with its modern western analogs.

During the evaluation the experts simulated the fight between Su-35 and some western airplanes (such as F-22) to determine how many Russian planes will be destroyed. Mind that Su-35 is the upgraded version of Su-27 and relates to 4++ aircraft generation.

Analyzing the plane’s characteristics, the agency imitated tactic and technical peculiarities. They were “equipped” with appropriate missiles, the pilot’s tactic was also impersonated.

The statistic was summmiresed and showed the following:

F-22 – 10,1:1 (one brought down F-22 for more than 10 SU-35)
Typhoon – 4,5:1
Rafale 1:1
F-15C 0,8:1
F-18D 0,4:1
F-18C 0,3:1
F-16C 0,3:1

Sorry, it likely the JASDF equipped with Typhoons could face more than 4.5 to 1 odds vs the Flanker. Which, would also be supported by large numbers of J-10’s. That of course doesn’t even include possible future models of PAK-FA’s or J-XX’s………..like I said I personally don’t believe the Typhoon provides the level of Air Superiority needed by the JASDF.

Just my personal opinion………..:cool:

True and with the future AESA upgrade and Super Cruise with 3d TVC. Possible HMD/R73 combo the flanker is going to be really lethal.

Then again these are the planned upgrades of the Indian flankers, Chinese are likely to rely on sheer numbers.

It is also debatable that the Typhoon is 4.5:1 while the Rafale is just 1:1. Don’t see that much of superiority to the typhoon in the a2a role compared to the Rafale.

And you must not forget that South Vietnamese government was corrupt and economy was a mess. Not the same with South Korea. And they will be fighting for their country so its really different I would say.

If the Greeks get the Rafale and we know the Turks will get the JSF.

That’s the best chance we will have of seeing them against each other in actual combat, Should settle a lot of arguments in the forum as well. 😀

So from that it seems they have only just agreed on the design and development, two very important words that show this machine is not yet even built yet in the prototype stage considering they have only just “agreed on the design” to use the Indian Airforce Chiefs words. Seems futher delayed then anyone previously thought 😮

The Indian version of PAK FA is not scheduled to fly in 2009 anyway its like 2014 the first flight. It will be tailor made for the IAF with a two crew cockpit etc.

I have no such worry about the Flankers. Negotatiations are already taking place for their upgrade to Ibris E and better engines.

Astra will replace the R 77s in the future. We should able to integrate indigenous radars and missiles in the future. The ToT with the MRCA would help us in this regard.