The Nimitz recently visited a few of the Indian ports, so that claim is not true. The Kittyhawk may not be offered and may not be accepted I was just saying it would have made sense to have a larger ship than 3 smaller ones which the IN plans to have by 2020, their combined man power will exceed that of the KH.
The Upgraded Bisons are more than a match for the Pakistani early block F 16s and any Chinese fighter apart from the Su 27/30 and J 10s, so why scrap them when they are very relevant ? :confused:
Well, I am not so sure about the Kitty Hawk? While, she is very capable she would be very expensive to man and operate. Yet, that would be up to India. Clearly, she has the money and resources.
Here’s a wild or maybe not so wild suggestion. Let’s say India selects the Super Hornet for the MMRCA. (which I believe is likely) Why not lease the ex-Kitty Hawk and equip it with a couple dozen Super Hornets. (Hey, the US may lease the Kitty Hawk “free” with the purchase of the Super Hornets.) Especially, in todays economic climate! Then after a couple IAC’s enter service the Super Hornets could be transfered back to the Indian Air Force and then the IAC’s could be equipped with F-35B’s……This is very doable and could happen quickly. India would thereby trump both Russia’s and China’s Carrier Programs………..
Lets pray something like this happens. 😎 There is no deterrent like a super carrier 😀
Most People in Britain seems to favour a pullout from Afghanistan for some reason, while its good to see that the new American President promises to increase the U.S troops there. Afghanistan is the first line of defense (offense) in the global war against terrorism. I really hope that the next government in my country (India) will send troops there if the Brits and Europeans withdraw.:)
India have plans for a 3rd carrier to be in service before 2020, probably the same as the first Indigenous ship
to what ‘It’ do you refer?
did you read what the Boeing man just said?
it has never operated off a ski jump in the past because there has never been a need (the US has no ski jump carriers)
BUT they studied the issue and found that the SH CAN OPERATE OFF A SKI JUMP
500 A + 100 B = 600 F-35 😉
they apparently have no problem being so russian reliant
Here is the WIKI page on Vikramaditya with citations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Vikramaditya/
It cannot even operate Mig 29K with maximum load and fuel let alone the SH which is heavier. Another factor is that SH is bigger than the Mig 29 and will have a larger footprint, means less planes.
Well India is having problems at the moment being so Russian reliant. Its only because we are so Russian reliant that this deal is going through. India accepted re-negotiation because the Russians supply most of our weapon systems. I think we need to diversify our equipment, going all American is probably worse than going all Russian.
The PAK-FA is many years off let alone a naval variant………….Even then its likely to be inferior to the F-35B/C. Of course maybe India will get the Lightning at some point? Personally, if India selects an American in the MMRCA. The odds go up greatly………..IMO
There was a false news about India buying the Kitty Hawk. It would have made perfect sense to me to buy Kitty Hawk as it would be better than the two carriers we are going to get in the next decade combined. Still a Vikramaditya is better than nothing I guess…especially because the Chinese and Pakistanis do not have any carriers at the moment. The Vikrant class is a STOBAR carrier, so I am not expecting much from it either other than better launch and recovery speed, but like you said if we acquire JSF that would make perfect sense with these small carriers. :diablo:
It clearly states that Vikramaditya can only carry aircraft from MIG 29k downwards. F 18 will need a Catapult equipped carrier. India can neither afford 500 F 35 and nor will choose to be so US reliant.
May be more as a deterrent to fill in the gap left by Viraat till the Vikrant class carrier comes up ? 🙂
Lets get back to Vikramaditya. How will it increase Indian Navy’s capability ? Will the poor launch and recovery speed be a handicap in case of a conflict say between India and Pakistan ?
I disagree, with the way Indian establishment is once they get PAK FA they will ditch MCA even if its superior. Like Arjun and T 90
India has already another fifth generation project called the MCA. Participating in the PAK FA will shelf that forever. The MCA can be the 5th gen fighter in the Air Superiority role while the JSF can replace the Jaguars and the MRCA.
Would be ideal to have 200+ MCA 230+ MKI 126 JSF 200 LCA 😎
Rafale and Super Hornet cannot operate from carriers like Vikramaditya and the Vikrant Class. May be the next carrier will have CATOBAR.
India is not going to get SU 35. With new engines and Irbis-E the MKI is nearly as good. PAK FA or MCA is more likely.
Sure, says you. Is there anyone else on this forum who has more arrogance, defiance, and shamelessness? Yet your rants are not impressive. I would like to see if you could come up with something substantial rather than behaving like a 5 years old. Whatever mess Pakistan is in, Us and its allies are squarely responsible. From supporting the dictatorships to the bringing of corrupt politicians into power. This is nothing new, same game but in a different theater. Pakistan will eventually overcome its troubles and you (and prople alike) will go to your graves with all bad wishes. Besides, is there a state which is more bankrupted than the US? guess how much debt you owe, whooping $10,662,343,053,729.86. Clearly shows that US has lost control over its financial institutions. And if the major buisnesses keep downsizing at the pace they are doing it right now, riots are not far away. Punch line is, take care of your own problems rather than commenting on others. If you have useful information to share which is relevant to the thread, go ahead, else invest your precious time in some community work to show your patriotism or join military and practically express your xenophobia.
Yes the US and allies are responsible for the state of Pakistan. They should not have sponsored terrorists like you lot in the first place. 😮
Pak government may not be sympathetic with the Taliban, but large sections of the population are. Many feel that they are fighting and unnecessary war and should instead concentrate their resources on India.
Pakistan is also increasing their ties with China and are buying J 10s. America surely do not want another Iran where they sold them state of the art Tomcats.
I also believe that Indian and American interests with regards to China and Terrorism are almost the same. The new found partnership between the countries will not be undermined even if the opposition takes power in India.
Co developing the PAK-FA offers more problems than buying JSF and developing its own MCA. For one the Russians in need of money may sell it to China. And in terms of a conflict between Pakistan and India, rest assured the Chinese will brief the Pakistanis on the weaknesses of the PAK FA. Secondly the PAK FA is at an advanced stage of its design with the first flight scheduled next year. India may gain next to nothing by co-developing it, how ever it may supply advanced avionics/ sw etc. And the stealthiness of the PAK FA may or may not be comparable to that of JSF. It is too much of a gamble to take.
The best option for India right now is to scrap the PAK FA. Buy 126 Block 60 F 16s with a MOU for upgradation to JSF in the future.