I think that forum members should generally restrain themselves from lecturing in political themes. Especially members with good reputation regarding aviation topics.

I’d like to watch the coalition bombing UAE & Saudi when their citizens get clubbed down while protesting against their dictator
Nah.. didn’t think so

I don’t think it’s a question of clubbing protestors. More like shelling residential areas, hospitals, etc., & promising ‘no mercy’ to the people of re-captured towns.

Peaceful protests in Kingdom of Bahrain and home of the headquarters for United States Naval Forces-Central Command United States Fifth Fleet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FECOI8EOx8

Crashed F-15 images form Benghazi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm5agXD_2w0

Fascinating.
How easy and willing people pick sides, how easy they judge and differentiate good from bad guys, how easy they cheer for military intervention in someone else’s country. By using good old media reports. Cheers…

On topic, here you can read decent analysis of Libyan SAM network:
http://geimint.blogspot.com/2010/05/libyan-sam-network.html

Question is do they even have one or two operating batteries, under government control. I doubt it.

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And what is an alternative ?
To be destroyed and die on the first day of massive NATO air attack by deploying SA-3 classic defense tactics ?

Let me tell you what’s different on those SA-3 systems used to shot down US planes. People.

Let me use comparison I’ve heard from US officer who witnessed and analyzed live usage of SA-3 system by different armies.
“SA-3 is an object just like a basketball (ball). Old and well known, simple, and there’s nothing special about it. Bunch of guys are using SA-3, and playing in teams of five people just like in basketball.

But there’s one team of five using that simple ball on absolutely different level.

All other professional army teams compared to those guys look like this.

The ball is the same, results are staggering different.
“

p.s. to shorten the quote I’ve used pictures

From pictures and current data we can tell nothing about RA materials J-20 is going to use in future.

djcross, you have seen pictures of this fighter, what is your professional opinion on J-20 front section stealth shaping, especially nose section and canopy ? What do you think about general airframe design of this protype ?

Thank you.

Nighthawk is aluminium bird covered with stone age technology heavy weather-sensitive crisp RAM – may be more advanced variant then in her early years but still unrelevant to today standarts.

RAM type applied on F-117 has physical limitations as any other material. Because of it’s limitations it is not compatible with fighter jets (speed, temperature and maintenance parameters).
Declaring it as a “stone age” is wrong. Compared against modern fighter jet RA paints F-117 thick RAM could easily come out as a winner in radar em waves absorption competition.
F-117 was a bomber aircraft. It’s sandwich type RAM is still very capable material.

If I’m not mistaken China is in process of building indigenous aircraft carriers, and they have acquired one Admiral Kuznetsov class carrier. Are there any data about new 5th gen. naval fighter program for those carriers ?

Just exactly what does anyone think the Chinese need with a ‘stealth fighter’?

For the same cause US needs them.

Weapons bay is located between three wheels of landing gear.

making comparisons to serbia is pointless- there is absolutely no similarities. we are not talking about a massive air war over several weeks- we are talking 1-2 strikes over 1-2 days, with far less goals then NATO Vs Serbia.

It’s not pointless. Concidering Air war-and that’s the topic, things are very much the same, like the first strike on Serbia (it was A planned to last only few days, not B months).

On one side you have strike jets in the air, with dedicated fighter jet support, they are entering hostile airspace (defended by SAMs, manpads, AAA, fighters), they have to perform bombing mission, … that’s a scenario.
Only, Serbia was much easier. And NATO led by USA had much much more powerful force than Israel has today.

No need for political details, we are talking about Air war, comparison is there to notice real consequences and problems…