thanks seems like An-24 and 26 can also be used to drop barrel bombs
Antonov had already developed a method to attach four racks to that older aircraft, two on each side of the fuselage, able to carry 500-pound class bombs, a configuration that reportedly dates back to before the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. In addition, a special system was installed inside the main cargo bay that allowed the crew to roll up to four more 500-pound class bombs right out of the back of the aircraft. A bombardier using an NKPB-7 optical bombsight in one of the plane’s two side-mounted observation windows would aim the weapons in a method not far removed from how bomber crews did so in World War II. It is not clear if the Iraqis are still using this sighting system.
In contrast, most other such bomber conversions of transport planes that remain in use today around the world, such as Iraq’s An-32s, are generally an especially crude method of conducting strikes. We don’t know where and how the Iraqis have employed these armed An-32s, but there were increased reports regarding their use in the lead up to liberating Mosul in 2016, along with an official video showing Mi-171 helicopters dropping unguided bombs from high altitudes.
IRAQI AIR FORCE
An Iraqi An-32 with what may be a new, single pylon bomb rack or a sensor system.
It is possible, and perhaps likely, that the An-32s were among the factors that contributed to significant reported civilian casualties during the Mosul campaign. The converted transports simply would not have been able to strike targets with high precision, increasing the chances of collateral damage in general, but especially during missions over a densely packed urban area where ISIS in many cases deliberately established positions next to innocent bystanders.
Iraq’s recent strike in Syria, which the country’s military very visibly touted as a precision affair involving laser-guided bombs as seen in the video below, could indicate that the country is moving away from its earlier imprecise tactics. Unfortunately, it’s hard to say how regularly the Iraqi Air Force conducts missions using precision-guided munitions.
But with its F-16IQs, Su-25s, L-159s, and now South Korean-made T-50 Golden Eagle jet trainer and light attack aircraft, Iraq increasingly has far better options when it comes to carrying out air strikes and appears to have relegated its AC-208s to intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance missions. And even though the Vipers are the only aircraft that can employ precision-guided munitions, the Frogfoots, ALCAs, and Golden Eagles can all almost certainly deliver unguided weapons more accurately that the converted transports.
The An-32s could still find some use against remote militant camps or compounds, where precision might not be as important as volume of fire and where there is less concern about causing civilian casualties. With ISIS, or some new “ISIS 2.0” iteration of the group, still a threat in Iraq and Syria, air power will almost certainly continue to be an important part of making sure the terrorists are unable to reassert themselves.
great points thanks
I suggested 5000 as by 1990 that would be enough to give atleast 2 x R-73 to every mig-29/su-27 in PVO/VVS and have some for reserve
How long does it take to manufacture an AAM like R-73 ? since they are likely to have high expenditure when a conflict starts
yes I meant mig-29UB sorry
a 30mm cannon with 150 rounds vs a 20mm Cannon with 512 rounds………basically the M61A1 has a much higher rate of fire so should in theory have a higher chance of hitting something however a single 30mm round can do more damage.
what was the effective range of either cannon ?
AIM-9P is all aspect weapon ? used for head on encounters ?
in real life were the Mig-29UB expected fulfill any combat roles ? even as point defence interceptor ?
so seems like R-73 entered production by 1984, even if 1000 were made per yr is it safe to assume USSR had 5000 R-73 by 1990 ?
does anybody have more pics of antonov makeshift bombers or articles about them please share
thanks !
I believe this is the one
it would be nice to see if lets say PLAAF J-8 and Vietnamese airforce su-15 clashed in the 80s or 90s !
hi can someone please clarify the above question thanks
thanks
so approx 3 xmig-23 ( 6 million each) can be bought for the price of 1x f-16 ( 18-20 million)?
thank you so much appreciate your help
^ was it the migs from egypt ? that must be the mig-23MS
Not vey agile – like any other aircraft that’s heavily laden.
so in A2G missions they needed escorts ?
Like in Osirak raid ?
I meant the cost of Mig-23ML to domestic market i.e VVS or PVO
Schrem
Yeah that’s kinda lame. Comparing top of the line F-16s to Mig 23’s.
The Soviet answer to f16 was Mig 29
this thread is set in the late 80s to 1990
large numbers of mig-23ml and mf confronted f-16A/C during this era
mig-29 was only in small numbers like 700 in VVS by 1989
Thanks Levsha
yes indeed f16 was a great multirole aircraft in the 80s, I wondered how agile it was when burdened with external loads when carrying out strike missions though ?
no just a simple comparison thats all
I personally think F-16A/C in the pre-AMRAAM era was a pretty overrated A2A fighter