Definately a Meteor, the access panels show up in the photos here http://www.aviationmuseum.com.au/aircraft/meteor.cfm. I would agree that it is VZ467, it has the clear stenciling and there aren’t any other flyers like it.
33046 – Merlin (Originally intended to be R J Mitchell)
33063 – R J Mitchell
Great photos.
There is one record holding aircraft in there, LB-30A AL578 “Marco Polo” flew the first none stop flight from (if you go with the RAF Northolt history) Washington to London or the other way round according to Royal Insight. It took 19hr 46min.
I can’t believe some-one paid £145 for what is just a tiny piece of scrap iron, if I want scrap iron from munitions I can just go to where bombs fell in the area. May be some-one will start the school boy trade in bomb fragments again.
Since someone mentioned the u/c it is the same design as used by latecoere ie off a wheel barrow. The camel is quite a way behind as you can just make out its rains and they are in proportion with the camel and are barely visible.
The whitley project web site lists a recovery of parts from BD232 having taken place on the 17th Nov last year. Quite what was recovered I don’t know but there wasn’t a lot up there when I went 2 years ago.
Any wreckage recovered from the lake would not have been from the Whitley, it would have been from the C-47B that flew into the cliffs above in Nov 44. I had heard some years back a diving group located a large part of the C-47 and moved it across the lake to shallower water but it was left there.
I see there is an inpectors stamp on that plate if it was struck hard enough you should be able to make out which company made it. If its Vickers it should be VA, VAC, VABL, VACB if you clean the plates with a wire brush more number might become apparent. I’ll go and check the wellington bits I have with see if any start 288.
I’ve been through my book about hurricane which has lots of pictures of Hurricanes undergoing restoration and there is nothing like that. All the wooden stringer run length wise along the aircraft so that piece would have to be vertical. The only vertical strip of metal was by where the rudder attached and that was on a metal frame. It certainly looks like aircraft though though it might not be hurricane.
I have been through 53, 54, 55 and 56 and there were three crashes in that area of Staffordshire. The only likely one is Harvard Mk.IIB KF713 off 6 FTS which broke up in mid air and dived into the ground on the 17th Feb 1953 killing the pilot, it is recorded as 1 mile SW of Meir.
No Meteors that I am aware of, there’s a Canberra that dived straight out of cloud and a venom that also did the same, I’ll have another check though the various books.
There’s enough structure there for apart number, especially on that plate in the middle photo. If you can get a number or two then you’ll know what it is.
All the recovered items went to Millom in Cumbria, its almost a year since I last saw the items so I can’t comment on current condition.
The aircraft dug by TT was left, there was less metal there and more corrosion in the shape of the original metal, if we had tried to lift it all we would have had was a pile of corrosion. We then did dig the second aircraft after TT had left and got plenty of good bits off that. Most of those are also at Millom.
At least I am not alone in that view, I would prefer it if everything was above board but when the goal posts get moved so far people will stop playing by the rules.
Concrete isn’t as strange as it sounds, I was told about lumps of it being used in Tornados and other RAF aircraft that bits had been removed from.