Thanks Killagee fantastic pics.
Couldnt go for family reasons but happy that i saw your pics:D π π
The advantage of IR guidance would be that you can also engage stealthy aircraft. I think even a stealthy aircraft like F-35 can be detected, but not sufficient to gain a missile lock. Such a weapon would work best when it is able to receive inputs from several sources, so for example AWACS or other aircraft. Or possible guidance by linked RWR when the stealthy aircraft has its radar activated.
Agree totally
Infrared homing refers to a guidance system which uses the emission from a target of electromagnetic radiation in the infrared part of the spectrum to track it. Missiles which use infrared seeking are often referred to as “heat-seekers”. Infrared (IR) is just below the visible spectrum of light in frequency and is radiated strongly by hot bodies. Many objects such as people, vehicle engines and aircraft generate and retain heat, and as such, are especially visible in the infra-red wavelengths of light compared to objects in the background.
Most infrared guided missiles have their seekers mounted on a gimbal. This allows the sensor to be pointed at the target when the missile is not. This is important for two main reasons. One is that before and during launch, the missile can’t always be pointed at the target. Rather, the pilot or operator points the seeker at the target using radar, a helmet-mounted sight, an optical sight or possibly by pointing the nose of the aircraft or missile launcher directly at the target. Once the seeker sees and recognises the target, it indicates this to the operator who then typically “uncages” the seeker (which is then allowed to follow the target). After this point the seeker remains locked on the target, even if the aircraft or launching platform moves. When the weapon is launched, it may not be able to control the direction it points until the motor fires and it reaches a high enough speed for its fins to control its direction of travel. Until then, the gimballed seeker needs to be able to track the target independently.
Finally, even while it is under positive control and on its way to intercept the target, it probably won’t be pointing directly at it; unless the target is moving directly toward or away from the launching platform, the shortest path to intercept the target will not be the path taken while pointing straight at it, since it is moving laterally with respect to the missile’s view. The original heat-seeking missiles would simply point towards the target and chase it; this was inefficient. Newer missiles are smarter and use the gimballed seeker head combined with what’s known as “proportional guidance” in order to avoid oscillation and to fly an efficient intercept path.
The pilot in question has experience on various aircraft. But in general I agree. Especially since Eurofighter and Rafale are so close together that even a fly-off would end in the conclusion that “both are good”.
then the raptor will wipe the floor of both the Eurofighter and Rafale π
In reality, the improvement in capability over current ships (or the long-gone Perth class DDGs) of even the Spanish design is massive… and the RAN would do well with either one.
The main thing for me would be this… is the “3 AWD” plan carved in stone?
If yes, then buy the Gibbs & Cox, as the RAN will have a better overall capability.
If, however, the lower cost of the Spanish ships leads to a decision to buy a 4th AWD (yes, the total cost will be higher then 3 G&C ships), then by all means buy Spanish… as 4 modified F100s would have more capability than 3 Burke-lites, and about the same total crew IIRC.
4 modified F100s would be better because u could permanately deploy
2 on east coast and 2 on west coast.
My contact in the RAN suggests that this is a spoiler planted by someone with a vested interest in boosting the F100 design.
The fact that the journo is aware of the visit of Alvaro de Bazan to Perth (the far end of the universe for most Canberra-based journo’s, of which Walters is one) suggests he has been spoon fed.
The critical statement is “The design offered by Gibbs and Cox is a more powerful warship than the Spanish F100 air warfare destroyer, and remains the navy’s preferred choice”
At this time it seems that the F100 still remains the alternative, despite those with a vested interest in talking it up.
Unicorn
i was going to have a look at it tomorrow but might not have the time
read this link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canberra_class_large_amphibious_ship
These ships will have air support, amphibious assault, transport and command centre roles, and are planned to replace in turn HMAS Tobruk and one of the RAN’s two current Kanimbla class vessels.
Strange there not replacing both Kanimba class ships,
or maybe 3 ships to be ordered down the track??
eurotrash-hauler
aus to far commited to JSF me personally wold of gone with
40 F15E/K with Raytheon APG-63(V)3
the rest of budget RAPTORS
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Come June 2008, the RSAF will replace its current batch of Marchetti S-211s with a brand new trainer aircraft – the Pilatus PC-21. The S-211 has been the RSAF’s basic trainer for a good 22 years.
The RSAF awarded a service contract to Lockheed Martin Simulation, Training and Support (LMSTS) on 3 Nov to support the Basic Wings Course.
The course aims to provide pilots with the knowledge and skills of basic flying before they progress to advanced aircraft training.
LMSTS will supply and maintain a fleet of Pilatus PC-21 aircraft and a suite of ground-based training systems to 130 Squadron (130 SQN) in Pearce, Australia.
Pilatus Aircraft Ltd will supply 19 of its latest PC-21 advanced turboprop trainers, while Hawker Pacific Ltd will provide aircraft maintenance services.
Explaining the RSAF’s decision to replace the Marchetti S-211 basic trainer, LTC Philip Chionh, Head Flying Training Branch, Air Training Department, said: “The S-211 is already more than 22 years old, and as a result its maintenance costs have been rising steadily.
“The RSAF has embarked on a flying training transformation to replace our ageing trainers with a more cost-effective and efficient training solution.”
Real value
What is it about the PC-21 aircraft that makes it a better choice than other turboprop trainers in the market?
It was developed as a completely new training system both in terms of capability and life-cycle cost.
With its superior aerodynamic performance and a more powerful and cost-effective integrated training system, the PC-21 allows trainees to take in a larger proportion of the flying training syllabus.
The trainer plane will also incorporate avionics that allow the simulation of specific frontline missions. Pilot trainees can then develop the necessary capacity and skills with the complex systems operations and realistic tactical scenarios.
These advantages will mean substantial savings for every flying hour that the PC-21 replaces from a jet syllabus.
Expensive jet hours can now be reduced while the trainees become more proficient pilots with the focus on frontline skills. Flight safety during the realistic training scenarios will also be enhanced.
The PC-21 has been well-received by many of its customers. One of them even commented that the PC-21 is βnot an off-the-shelf aircraft with an off-the-shelf avionics upgradeβ.
Modern cockpit, effective training
The new basic trainer has a full glass cockpit which is fitted with three active-matrix liquid crystal displays (AMLCD). The three multi-function displays comprise a Primary Flight Display (PFD), which provides information like speed, altitude, and navigation information, and two Multi-Function Displays (MFD).
The MFDs have a large variety of page formats, including master systems pages, moving map and tactical displays.
The fully digital glass-cockpit environment of the PC-21, which mimics modern jet fighters, is capable of interacting with any frontline type and this allows trainee pilots to acquire mission management skills relevant to the frontline aircraft type and role they are selected for.
Perfect airborne classroom
Pilot trainees will also benefit from the Embedded Simulation and Training suite that comes with the PC-21 aircraft.
The aircraft software load can be modified according to the requirements of the studentβs phase of training. The suite not only provides cross-platform cockpit emulation and weapon simulation, but also allows trainees to get a feel of how radar and electronic warfare is conducted and fought.
With the decoupling of the cockpit, the instructors can manipulate what can be seen on the display screen of the trainees and increase training effectiveness for each individual student.
Instructors can create simulated non-flight safety critical system failures or even data degradation. Similarly, they can also generate synthetic air-to-air radar target and electronic warfare.
Said LTC Chionh: “The new aircraft will allow us to better train our pilots to meet the demands of the increasingly sophisticated frontline aircraft, like the F-15, AH-64 and S70B, that are coming in to the RSAF inventory.”
With such advanced technologies in-built, the PC-21 aircraft is certainly a cut above the rest, and subsequent batches of pilot trainees can only get more proficient and professional.
Sweet aircraft indeed:) π
ABSOLUTLEY fantastic photos well done π
The RAN is short of sailors to man ships.
Aus govt should give instant citizenship to sailors and the immediate
families to sign up for the RAN…:D
didnt the frogs screw aussies over the mirage’s.
i wouldnt trust them…. screw them down to a price:dev2:
Uhm, you mean to say this is already the definitive Dutch JLSS/JLOS design? I thought these were preliminary drawings?
its a sweet looking ship it may be a great replacement for tobruck
20 to 24 RAPTORS the rest F35s
Clearly, the RAAF needs both the F-22 and F-35!:diablo: Now we need just to find a way to pay for them……………….:eek:
oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:dev2: