How about transport Stirlings or Yorks?

Stirlings in China – there might be some truth in that rumour, yet?! 😉

Hi again, Jason,

Wow!! What a find that fin was/is!! Do you know how much that went for in the end and where it has ended up? Someone related to the 361st, I hope!

I have a strong desire to get a complete 388th BG insignia, “Square H”, for the 388th Collection, one day. It’s sad that they don’t have a complete version of this famous insignia. Quite frustrating as the Museum at Hardwick has the majority of one from the 388th’s B17G Skipper “an” the Kids and the 388th Collection has the very much smaller but remaining piece of the jigsaw!

A nice pint in the Swan is always welcome 🙂 , maybe coinciding with a trip to the Knettishall airfield and museum!? I’d certainly be up for that!

All the best

Graham

Oh, go on then, I’ll bite! :rolleyes:

As far as the copies in the Swan are concerned, they are/were only a SUBSET of COPIES of the entire set of originals which the 388th BG(H) Association have in their collection. If you look at the Louis Lane Collection on the 388th website http://www.388thbg.org/webphotos.html, which I told this forum about well over a year ago, you’ll see that there are more images than just those in the Swan. Moggy, why not read what the Association has to say on the subject?! :rolleyes: :

[INDENT]“Louis Lane was a turret specialist working in the sub-depot at Knettishall from 1943 to 1945. At some point in 1944, he shot a series of color sides of 388th aircraft during routine maintenance procedures. Mr. Lane died in 1995. Although some of the slides were later lost, the bulk of his collection was given by the family to the 388th Bombardment Group (H) Association, Inc. for safekeeping.
For many years the Association has endeavored to protect these images from unauthorized publication and other forms of piracy. In 2003, it was decided to officially copyright the images and publish them on our own website.”[/INDENT]
There it is in black and white, the photographer’s family and the 388th BG(H) Association have the bulk of this guy’s priceless work in their possession for safekeeping. Furthermore, there are a number of sets of copies of these images both in the US and UK. Where the rest of his collection went to, we’d all like to know, but that’s a different story. And, we can ALL see copies of OFFICIALLY COPYRIGHTED, LOW/MEDIUM RESOULTION images for everyone to see on the 388th’s website, which is the way it should have been all along – NOT the ILLEGAL, HIGH RESOLUTION images we had on this forum 😡 !!

So, as shocking as this information might be to you, Moggy, there was never any threat of those images being lost to the “wider world”!
Your sensational claims such as “priceless wartime album”, “unique records being lost” and “original 1940s colour prints” are therefore clearly false! 😮

For the new owners of the Swan being without a copy to show to visitors that is indeed regretable. That album has lit up the faces of many visiting veterans, their families, friends and enthusiasts. Moggy, why don’t you step in and offer a set of prints from your dodgy CD?!! 😉

KNOCKOUT IN THE FIRST ROUND!?? :p

It just goes to show, if you want to know something about Nottingham, just ask a man in Australia…..

…or a Scotsman in Norway!

Hi, Kev!

As a former Nottingham/Derby resident and Rolls-Royce employee of 13 years, I’d like to say I know a bit more, but JDK’s given you the same info as I would have given!

I know that DURING the war RR also took over a number of lace/textile mills for Merlin repair work. However, other than the Hucknall site and Mount Sorrell (between Notts and Leicester), I can’t recall any other RR involvement in or around Nottingham prior to the war.

IIRC Dunlop Rubber Company had a place in Nottigham BEFORE the war?? Maybe, they were involved with Aircraft tyres – maybe worth checking?!

Finally, what about asking the guys at Newark Air Museum – it’s not too far away from Nottingham?!

Best of luck 🙂

Graham

Oh Bug*er says Colin realising he’s typed his message three times! 😀

“But i am suprised that private firms were not asked to rescue the guys i am sure their are some that own dsrv’s”

The Russians did this before with the Norwegians during the Kursk debacle. However, having recently spoken with some of those Norwegian lads who were involved I guess both the Russians and private firms might be very cautious about going down that route again. The Russians tried to “claim the glory” (perhaps not the best word to chose with the Kursk 🙁 ) by covering over the Norwegian private firm’s logo on the recovery video with one of their own logos, thus trying to make out a “big deal” to their own nation that they had done more than they actually had done! Blackcat, the Russians are just as good, if not worse in this case, by actually falsely claiming to their own people about their apparent efforts – at least the British efforts were genuine!! 😡

Also, as a member of the Rolls-Royce Marine NSRS (NATO Submarine Rescue System) Bid Team who won the contract to supply, manage and support the rescue capability to the British, Norwegian and French navies from 2006 (replacing the UK’s LR5 submersible), I am aware that NSRS is potentially available to anyone who wants it! Russia take note!! May I even suggest the Russians visit the following website: 😉
http://www.ismerlo.org/assets/nato_srs.htm
and contact the NSRS Program Management Organization, who appear only to eager to help:
[email]webmaster@ismerlo.org[/email]

I guess that Rolls-Royce’s success will mean that the present British team will be relieved of their duties in 2006/7 unless they want to “jump ship” (or should that be submersible? :rolleyes: ) to the Rolls-Royce team.

I really think the BBC were well within their rights to allow us Brits to celebrate this team’s wonderful efforts – as a nation we’ve gone through enough sh*t recently for goodness sake. Well done, indeed Cdr Ian Riches, Royal Navy, et al!!! 🙂

Skipper

Please can I have two of them, three of them, oh and four of… 😎

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.155341,-110.834563&spn=0.005229,0.007308&t=k&hl=en

“Flying is supposed to be the safest form of transport around”

It apparently still is (see attached UK DTI based info).

I reckon it would still be safer if all aircraft stayed in museums or hangars, though… :p

Skipper