nope, but in my opinion the majority of those who think the war is unwinnable made up their minds on day one, and nothing that you can say will change them.

Its worth countering but not worth getting upset about i think.

You cant change the ways of the locals, theyve been brought up/had it drummed into them that way for centuries!
Years ago we used to live in the UAE where all the labourers where of Indian/Pakistani/Afghan origin.

Whilst the Indians and Pakistanis where always at each others throats, it was a regular thing for the Afghan guys to be fighting quite violently amongst themselves, simply because they where from different reigons of the crap hole or different tribes.
The moment that anybody non Afghan stepped in to break it up, the attitude changed from one of trying to knock seven bells out of each other into ” dont touch my ‘ brother’ ” or we will start on you to those interfering. The moment you walked away they would happily start on each other again.
This wasnt isolated to the company we where working with, it was like it everywhere.

Whilst foreginers are in their counrty they will fight them, when they leave they will revert to bickering amongst themselves.

The war WILL be won, as long as nay sayers dont pull us out before we get the chance to win:(

Its one war that will never be won. Nobody has gone into Afghanastan and done what they envisaged they would do.
The Russians wasted countless of their own lives and multi-millions in equipment only to give up.
Its a lost cause, shoot me down in flames, but the Afghan public will side with who evers offering them the best deal on the day. One day your gods best gift, ( Allah if your that way inclined) the next day your an infidel and they are siding with the Taliban to eradicate you.

The country and its people have always been like this.

Back to the RAF saga, I hear our local toyshop is selling halfprice kites this week, maybe I should buy them all up and put them in storage with an eye to selling them onto the MOD at a later date when they have scrapped/sold off everything else in their inventory thanks to continual cutbacks and wastefulness/belt tightening.

And here’s proof that you don’t need carriers for a naval battle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMqSmiC_xHg

Having watched the clip, I think that maybe our current armed forces would be expected to take part in that ‘ battle ‘, but be expected to do it minus the hand bags and with both arms tied behind their backs.

Sorry, replace the ‘ armed forces’ with ‘ dis-armed forces’.

I tend to lurk and not post, but I thought that I realy had to comment on this matter.

Its a LIVE VICTOR for goodness sake!

Does it matter if its pink, hemp, white, or dayglo orange with brown stains?

It is of no business to anyone apart from the aircrafts owners as to which colour they paint her.

I think she looks stunning and if the new paint helps keep those horrid elements at bay for a few more years then its a good job thats been done well.

Dug out my moth eaten old 3822 and my list is:
Chipmunk WP896 RAF St Athan
Chipmunk WP929 RAF St Athan
Chipmunk WB560 Im Guessing Exeter Airport
Chipmunk WP920 RAF St Mawgan
Chipmunk WP920 RAF Abbingdon
Chipmunk WP833 Exeter Airport
Chipmunk WP833 Exeter Airport
Chipmunk WK642 Exeter Airport

Plus
3 Gazzelle flights
2 Wessex Flights
2 Puma flights
1 Nimrod
1 Chinook
1 Hercules
1 DH Rapide!:eek:

I was realy, realy, realy lucky with the amount of time and variety of aircraft that I flew in with whilst in the ATC.
I logged 22 hours and 24 minutes airtime.
My highlight was my chippy flight out of St Mawgan, I used to spend hours as a kid watching the Shackletons and Nimrods on approach to St Mawgan over my Nan and Grandads house up at Hensbarrow Beacon, It made my day to fly the same route over their house, then to U turn and barrel roll over their house!

Just saw what looked like 3 Strike masters flying in formation over the Dawlish/Teignmouth area.

Is it right what I hear now they looking for another 2 mill?

If the past is anything to go by, that shouldnt be for a couple of months at least…….:rolleyes:
Seriously though, I hope that the money is raised, BUT I do belive that as with previous ‘ give us the money or the Vulcan gets it’ appeals, its only another stay of an inevitable execution.

Lets hope Im proved completely and utterly wrong, I’ll be more than happy for that on this matter.