1) Canberra pancaked at Srinagar and was subsequently recovered after major reengineering so is classified as a kill.
is not. only a write-off counts as a kill. perhaps it counts as kills in the minds of PAF fanboys but it doesn’t in the real world.
2) Mi-8 was an Anza hit.
stinger, not anza. no evidence of anza missiles hitting anything other than ground have been found in kargil. all hits were from stingers. missiles were lodged in the hit but surviving aircraft and it was possible to figure out for those at least.
this is from the pakistani jang newspaper :
http://jang.com.pk/thenews/may2007-weekly/nos-20-05-2007/pol1.htm#3
China, the other friend, on the other hand helped us to struggle with the remaking of first generation discarded missiles. Not a single one of the Anza missiles worked in Kargil.
3) Flameout is the Indian version. Pakistani version says Anza hit
flameout is the TRUE version, anza is the typical PAF fanboy FALSE version. IAF has had no problems admitting when it lost aircrafts to missile fire. even better, it admits to non-lethal missile hits when these could have been easily hushed up. there is no reason why it would lie about one mig-27 incident if it happened from a missile hit and not a flame-out.
unless of course, it is the PAF fanboy bluster claim that is a lie ! :dev2:
added later : thanks teer for reminding me of the kaiser tufail article, bryant that is Air Cmde Kaiser Tufail, PAF for you, Director of Operations PAF during kargil war. please take this up with him, surely you know better ?
4) Was an Anza hit. Being killed by captors is the Indian version.
certainly not an anza, we have already cleared up that much. 🙂
is the only reasonable version. the post-mortem said :
India today lodged a strong protest over the “cold blooded and cowardly” murder of Sqn Ldr Ahuja by Pakistan. IAF spokesman Air Vice Marshal S K Malik stated that the post-mortem report revealed that Ahuja was shot twice, once through the ear and once through the chest, after he had parachuted into Pakistani territory. He also suffered a fracture on his left knee.
The post-mortem report of Ahuja revealed a “penetrating gunshot wound, “entry near his right ear and exit near his left ear.” The second wound showed “entry 2 cm medial to the right nipple and exit near left iliac crest.”
http://ikashmir.net/kargilheroes/ahuja.html
in fact the pak govt at the time admitted that he had not died from the crash and although it didn’t admit to killing him in captivity, tried to explain away those injuries as ‘accident’.
given the sub-human behaviour of pak army soldiers in the Lt Kalia incident it isn’t unexpected.
BTW how can IAF distinguish between a Stinger or an Anza hit?
you need to use a little grey matter to understand it. I’ve already given you the material above.
To that list I would add the IAF AN-32 which crossed over the border and was hit on the engine by an Anza but survived.
not anza but stinger.
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final count, 1 mig-21 flying low to search for his downed comrade fully aware of his personal risk,
1 Mi-17 flying without any countermeasures.
if the pak ground AD was so capable why weren’t there any more kills for the rest of the war ? oh wait, has the pak govt even officially admitted to using the pak army in kargil ? 😀
and we are supposed to blindly believe anything this epitome of truthfulness says ?
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