No offence to CASSargodha, but isn’t this thread a bit of a waste of time? I mean, surely this would apply to huge numbers of airforces across many decades, conflicts and situations?
Is there anything specific you had in mind?
can we have a few guesses w/o threat of banning ? π
the x-32 is so weird looking (not ugly, poor thing) it is actually very attractive ! :dev2:
along with the nighthawk and the spirit, it would have given US forces an unearthly look more like an alien force !
anyway, I find the raptor pretty uninspiring and common looking.
Wonder if Novator themselves have any “updates” on the missile.
The R-37 is no joke either though, being faster, smaller, although with 100KM less range.
there are actually some concerns in some quarters if the 172 can actually be fitted inside the internal bays of a PAK-FA. may be the r-37 would be a better candidate in this regard.
thanks a lot arthur and roberto !
the chinese and the egyptian kills are well known, so I didn’t ask about them.
what are the timelines of the other countries’ kills (saudi), and could I get the opponents too (in case of SAfrica and Venezuela) if that’s not too much effort ?
btw, bronco’s not a jet ! :p
regards !
And Egypt, South africa, Venezuela, Ecuador, China, Vietnam, ΒΏHolland?, Greece, Turkey, URSS-Russia, Saudi Arabia,…
1Saludo
interesting. could we have some details about
a) which conflict
b) which jet
for the following ?
South africa, Venezuela, Ecuador, Holland, Saudi Arabia ??
regarding USSR, are there any other than the korean war kills and KAL 007 ??
may be a few in afghanistan ?
TIA.
Now read the last part of the article. It talks about the revival of vympel’s missile program. this means that basically even though the KS-172 program is abandoned, the need for a long range AAM is not. Instead of Novator, it’ll be Vympel making it.
:rolleyes:
oh dear ! vympel is a competitor for the same slot. all the more reason to disbelieve this report ! this is like coke telling that the a new diet pepsi will not materialize.:p
AFAIR, even at the last MAKS the novator missile was displayed. although it is called k-100 or something like that nowadays.
unless there is an announcement from novator, almey antaz or the RuAF, the programme is going along.
regards.
and where exactly is that my words???
let me refresh your memory :
errr.. sorry to burst you out of bubble, even the company admits that the program is dead..
you know, to me that sounds like the “the company admits that the program is dead..”
since your link gives a news snippet of vympel speaking of novator’s product, I’m clearly mistaken. although I’m at a loss to understand what you meant by those words.
i do know vympel and novator are different companies..
I’m sure you do now ! π
KS-172 program is dead now..
whooa ! why ? because you said it ?
A word of advice, cut down on the sarcastic icons till you gather some basic knowledge, it’s for your own good.
cheers !
GOT A LINK? :rolleyes:
now, where is that rotflmao smily when you need one ??
π
do you know that vympel are novator are two different companies ??
I mean think about it, even their names are different !! what is so hard ?
anyway, I do agree that
….
further discussion are useless.
with you at any rate ! π
cheers !
errr.. sorry to burst you out of bubble, even the company admits that the program is dead..
further discussion are useless.
IC. where exactly ? gotta a link ?
for easy identification ? perhaps the cross glows in the dark ?
most posters here are of the opinion that the report itself is a bluff.
thanks guys.
Earlier version of the Eurofighter was a twin tail. Why did they change it?
didn’t know that ! anyone has a pic ?
And the best of the best….bend the wingtips downward, removing the tail, but for that you should need some king of dogtooth,is a weird design, is not so simple as you can figure at first, and is not easy as saying “bend the wing” because you will get some aerodynamic problems (althought these problems could be just solved with some kind of hole/slot in the bended wing joint area)
But as franc said it depends in the wave’s angle of incidence
Forget about FBW, it doesn’t solve the real problems
from an ameteurish POV, there would also be structural problems in that configuration. due to stress i.e
Nick, I must say, my response to abhiman’s post is more informative than yours, viz.
the above is incorrect ! π
anyway, sorry to do this to you, but IIRC you said something about weekend…… :dev2:
cheers !