While you are wet dreaming, consider the following realities.

1. The Pakistan dream list will take many years to get to fruition not just two.

2. The cost of these systems will end up cutting some of the acquisitions. For instance – Erieye and Hawkeye = $3 billion,P-3C,CIWS deal = $1.2 billion, 28 F-16s = $1.2 Billion, MLUs = 60 * $15 m = $900 million.

Total = $6.3 Billion. US baksheesh = $1.5 billion.

Gap = $4.8 billion

Pakistan’s defense budget is $3.1 billion as of this year.

Economic realities will make sure that some numbers will be cut down and also that the deliveries will be spread out over many, many years.

3. During the same years, India will acquire:

1. A dozen Scorpene subs and 2-3 Akulas :dev2:
2. 100 tracked and many times more wheeled SPA
3. 124 Arjuns and 310 T-90s plus 300 CI T-72s
4. More APCs
5. Homegrown AWACS in addition to Phalcon
6. 125 strike platforms – likely Mirage 2000-5s
7. Hundreds of towed arty
10. Brahmos – all 3 varieties
11. Greenpines and homegrown AD radars

etc. etc.

Pop goes the weasel :diablo:

GA,
If we sit down and catalogue the improvements India has made to its services in the past few years alone, Paks list seems ludicrous in comparison.
But then again, let them dream. They are dwarfed by India but cant seem to get over the “mine has to be bigger than yours” adage.
If in the process, they ignore their economy and education- which led them down the merry path to living on US handouts, thats their issue. :rolleyes:

What is CATIC? You are embrassing yourself with your limited knowledge

That would be the day! If you dont even know what AVIC and CATIC are, what the heck are you doing on an aviation board?

Your statement cannot make enter into service. About AFM bragging there is no other public information since than so it must be true. 😀

So Pakistan “designed and developed” the FC1?!

S-h-a-m-e-l-e-s-s! Stick to your Swedish “indigenous” Mushaks! Thats all you are good for! 😀

You understand the word Treatment? Russia will build the RD-33 according to there best quality to increase its exports while they will screw up foreign engines like Kaveris. I think they have given a very fair treatment to Kaveris 😀

So because the RD33’s are going to Pak they will be the best quality possible?
Kim Jong Il must have given transfer of technology then. In the fields of Industrial and Aerospace engineering, none can match the North Koreans. 😀

And Russia can screw up the Kaveri when it was accompanied by ~100 Indians on deputation from GTRE. Wow, they must have the Soviet version of James Bond then.

Talk about wishy washy nonsense. You are so woebegone at Indian acquisitions and the pathetic state of the PAF that you are clutching at straws. Sad. 😀

Both North Korea and South Korea are very talented nations of East. One is communist and other capitalist.(both are against VETO to certain large Asian country 😮 )

Sure, we all admire Kim Jong Il- he is the epitome of excellence. He supplies weapons to Pak, we admire him for that. Etc, etc.

There is nothing wrong with there build quality or technolgy. NK is conduit of Russian weopons.

LOL. That is why the North Korean AF is equipped with Su30’s, their army has UOMZ T90’s…anymore BS?

may Allah help the FC-1 then….. uses a russian engine … doesn’t it ?? :rolleyes:

Nirav,
The RD33 is now French- you see thats what the PAF meant when they said the FC1 would be Yoorupean, no Russian stuff for them, they buy only from the best. Like the North Koreans. Best there is. Kim Jong Il Inc follows Six Sigma, TQM and all his facilities are ISO 9000 certified. Believe you me. :rolleyes:

Its funny that you have to write this big paragraph. bulkof PAF F-7 airframes are of 90s era. IAF bulk of airframes is 70s era of which 75% is composed of MIGs and Most of it is unpgraded by modern standards.

LOL, heard of airframe upgrades?

It depends when the aircraft are actually built, upgraded and you cannot compare F-16 life with any aircraft in IAF inventory. It will outlast all of them.

The F7 upgrade the PAF carried out, is a farce! A limited radar, no MFD, no EW to speak of , no BVR ability…and we are to be impressed by the vintage and the fact that they are in Pakistani service?

I trust the poor AF’s worldwide which operate MiG29’s, F16’s etc of an earlier vintage are quaking in their boots, both at Star49s relevations and his deductive precision.

Yes i am waiting for that India decision. You better read Aviation Week 1994 issue where Russia clearly force down MIG-21 upgrade on India and It is from Indian airforce officials. Same is the case with Tu-142 upgrade. India also got alot of free and discounted suff from Soviets.

We dont need some article to tell how happy the IAF is with the Bison. When pilots describe it as a “relevation”,that says it all.