Ray Stutsman and friend 😉 August ’85.
The seat hinges forward.
Mark
Oh yeh. You really are going to work your way out of that when the aeroplanes spinning and falling in all directions. it was made for one – keep it for one.
Thanks OldSpitty but has anyone noticed the extra set of straps in the back of the cockpit?. A Thunderbolt built for two.
Brian
Not a good move, how do you think you would get out if the s&*t hit the fan.
Take em out and turn it back to stock, also note, in order to put the second seat in they cut the role over support off, it takes brains to remove primary structure like that – pilot and pax – morto.
The Blue Angels train and train hard for these manouvers.They start doing them at 30,000feet and slowly bring them down slowly to earth.No stone is unturned in regard to safety with them,they are the elite and they fly as such.
Over the past years I have seen better teams, they are not the elite, they are good but not the best by a long way.
As for training and training hard. You can’t train for the unknown – low fast high energy manouvers have very little room for error – emergency.
Hey what do I know, i only went to pick the broken pieces and liquidised bodies up when it all went a tiny bit wrong at “0 feet”
mick
One of the more interesting posts on here for many a long day. Thanks for posting.
mick
Nothing impresive about flying an aeroplane so low at an airshow. The aeroplane is flown to show it to the public, if an aeroplane is that low, any body standing any further back than row one can’t see you. The last thing we need in airshow flying is people who have ego’s greater than their ability. All they make are smoking holes.
There I was putting up a Garden fence this afternoon at about 3pm and suddenly in the distance I heard a more interesting noise that we normally hear over Loughborough (normally 737’s, 757 etc etc) Noise got louder then WOW a spit flying from EMA direction going south – it was quite a way away so could not identify it but from the music it was making it sounded like a Griffin!
Anyone else see it?
Makes doing the fence more bearable!! 🙂
Rich
Griffon.
Bush jnr is ‘the pilot’ also.
ANG I believe…Century fighters.
The ‘Times of England’ has alluded to it being a convenient way to dodge the Vietnam draft.
There were reported ‘anomalies’ with his flight times and log book.
Mark
I meant the one who made an effort.
mick
Without seeming to state the obvious – the current George Bush who some consider a
T*** isn’t without a shadow of a doubt a decorated WWII pilot . I think if your going to have a clash of swords at least one of the sparing parties should realise that they might not be casting insults at the same member of the Bush family tree!
Bush snr is the pilot, Avengers.
mick
Yes it does offend me…to a degree. I would never consider insulting (not merely disagreeing but using a rude word) on a UK politician or HRH QEII.
Why, because I figure if a country votes in someone they have a reason for doing so…and since I’m not a voter in your country, I’ll keep the insults to myself.
Feel free to say you disagree on the war or whatever, but keep it civil.And for Hoozarmy …”uneducated” he is not…Do you have a degree from a Oxford or Cambridge? Both Bush’s attended Yale, the younger has an advanced business degree. Again, he may be wrong, and you’re free to disagree, but don’t go out of your way to insult someone.
I do say the same about members of the British government and have in the past about the royal family. Tony Blair is an ******** and always will be.
As for having an advanced business degree, I suppose that means he can screw up with extreme confidence.
No I don’t have a degree, unfortunatly I have often had to go in and sort out Aviation related companies that have been decimated by degree educated managers and executives that have no clue about aircraft operation and maintenance, but they have a good way of making a loss into a negative profit and leaving with a big pay-off.
mick
Whatever your politics (and quite frankly spare us your anti-US rantings)…it’s better to name an airport after a president and decorated WWII flyer than a drunken footballer or an uneducated pop star whose simplistic “love-drugs” philosophy is as dated as his Neru jacket.
I like the Beatles, but to name the airport after Lennon, who wasn’t a very nice guy (the new…and widely acclaimed…Beatles biography which I’m currently reading says he used to go up to amputee vets and stick out his hand to shake their missing limb..and mock anyone with a handicap) and who by all accounts couldn’t get out of the town fast enough, seems a shallow PR-bid.
The comment was made tongue in cheek, so don’t get on your high horse and start ranting on. I don’t agree with Lennon airport either.
For your information I’m not anti US, I just consider GW Bush a Tw-t or does that offend you.
mick
In my opinion the fact that “joe public” may not know who he is, is a good enough reason to name it RJ Mitchell Airport. It’s about time we as a nation started remembering our great people again and educating people about said greats.
Or shall we keep cellebrating egitistical polliticians and tallentless pop stars.
This fu—-g country is going down the bog.
We could always call it GW Bush airport, we all know who that tw-t is.
Think on it.
mick
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Bleet! Bleet!
whinge moan!
Bleet! Bleet!
whinge moan!
Do you want to see the Vulcan fly again or not?
yes i F—–g well do. leave them alone. what will be will be.
mick
Stunning shots Darren, try and use less light next time.
The engine on over run is quite impresive if you can get as well.
Mick
Moocher..
Ever thought that the reason why the private companies are at Duxford is because it is home to one of the best collections.. they can get visitors to come and see and its worth every one’s while to have this co-location….And whilst that mutual benefit is there they will stay…
So its a pretty moot point.
Sad to hear your father in law doesn’t like it…I’ll remeber tho the families of the Veterans on the day of the Rededication…after the ceremony wandering thro the AAM, pausing at the B-24, the B-17 and like one pilot said.. it sure nice to see them inside…made better by being able to see them outside at the same time…he was more interested in remembering his crew than wheter or not Duxford wasn’t the same any more…
Or the Mustang pilot returning to Duxford for only the second time since 1944, saying brashly.. ‘I came for the Opening, I’m here for the Rededication… and if I’m still alive I’ll come to the next one…this place is so damn good…shame the rest is so poor’.
“The private owners make it one of the best collections” So don’t push me on that one.
The AAM is ugly as is the land warfare hall as will be the expanded superhangar, they are not in keeping with this delightful airfield. However, they do get the exhibits (or some of them) undercover.
The latter is good, but the former is pants and a pity. They could have put up a nice WW1 replica hangar where the BoB film people blew up the last and some nice modern repros of T2’s. This would have been in keeping with the airfield’s original 30s/40s appeal and allowed the airfield to still get some revenue from the film industry and be appealing to the eye. Sorry, just my opinion.
Duxford should be like Hullavington..a conservation area..no need for daft faddy buildings.Regarding the without the AAM blah it would be housing….er NO! I applaud the fund raising by all on both sides of the Pond that led to the AAM, but a memorial just as nice could have been created with period type buildings.
Very well put.