I was returning from Australia on 24-4-65 and on leaving Sydney Airport on my way to Singapore and saw NX611 parked up waiting for her turn to make the long journey to the UK> I have a very nice picture of her crossing the main road at RAF Changi into the transit Pan were she was looked after by members from the ASF Hastings and Shackleton
Trenchard Brat
Hi Roger – What a wonderful memory to recall. Any chance you could post that photo on here so that others can share your experience of ‘our beautiful lady’ in her white colour scheme?
Happy memories of showing people around when I was an air cadet at Blackpool airport, wonderful survival.
Hi Gary
Glad to share your wonderful happy memories of the days when NX611 was resident at Blackpool (Squires Gate) Airport. You and the other Cadets from the local Air Training Corps / Girls’ Venture Corps Squadrons (both boys & girls) in the Fylde played a very important role in the survival story of this iconic aircraft. In recognition of your contribution, Brian Goulding & I (as co-authors of the publication “Story of a Lanc” – 5th Edition) included a fitting complimentary entry on Page 42 of that book (link: http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/store/books/non-fiction/story-of-a-lanc.htm ):
(QUOTE:) One thing is for certain, however, if it hadn’t been for the willing help afforded by a number of enthusiastic boys and girls from the local Air Training Corps and Girls’ Venture Corps, who gave of their time and energy, almost from the time the Lancaster had touched down at Squires Gate, helping to ‘man’ the aircraft and other exhibits whilst the public were on site, many of the historic exhibits may not have survived to this day. In particular, NX611 may have suffered badly from the ‘sticky finger’ brigade if those willing little helpers hadn’t been prepared to sit, often for long hours onboard, showing members of the public through the aircraft and actively preventing damage from potential ‘souvenir hunters’.
I hope you will be able to re-establish your acquaintance with “Just Jane” (or “Guy Gibson” as she was named at that time) at East Kirkby at some time in the future – I’m sure the Panton Family would give you a warm welcome.
Kind Regards
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Don’t forget the 24 year old enthusiast (Bill Fisher ) who cheekily wrote to the French Navy asking if he could have one of their retired Lancasters for the Historic Aircraft Preservation Society.
They called his bluff, and wrote back to say it is in Australia, come and take it away 😉
Bil Fisher’s contribution to the recovery of G-ASXX / NX611 to the UK has been fully recognised and respectfully covered in Chapter 2 of the publication “Story of a Lanc” (5th Revised & Enlarged Edition) – If you still haven’t purchased a copy from the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre, East Kirkby, then may I recommend it to all Lanc enthusiasts. http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/store/books/non-fiction/story-of-a-lanc.htm
Hi No I have not received anything from you at all I thought you had forgotten us.
Dont know why you are having log in trouble try your cookie settings as the site tend to be a bit funny if you dont accept cookies.
Hi Mike
No I certainly haven’t “forgotten” you or the exciting ‘project’ – as I said, I sent (or at least the ‘darn’ (I’m trying to stay polite on here!!:mad:) computer assured me it had sent) you a ‘pm’ back in late February to give you my personal e-mail contact address so you could correspond with me off the ‘Flypast’ website. It would appear this did not get through to you – I’m sorry to hear, so I’ll again try to send you a ‘pm’ with that address – maybe if that succeeds we can continue our chat in a more ‘private’ way (my ‘Shedman’ contact does not wish to use this Forum to communicate – still very ‘sensitive’ issue I’m afraid – sure you’ll understand).
Cheers
‘Dick’
Hi, I’m an admin on the Whirly site. If you’re still having problems, PM me with your email and choice of password and I’ll register for you.
Cheers,
Matt
Hi Matt – Thanks for your offer of help with my registration on the ‘Whirly’ site.
I’m still having problems – the end process where two words are supposed to be visible for me to type in are just not there! as a result the registration fails each time. I’ve just sent you a ‘pm’ with my e-mail address and password preference so you can register me. Would be interested to hear from anyone else suffering problems with registration.
Again – thanks for your time.
Cheers
‘Dick’
For all members of the Whirlwind web site and those wishing to visit please note that our new domain name has now gone live.
for the next 24 hours you should be able to still get us on the old address whirlwindfighterproject.webs.com
But the NEW ADDRESS whirlwindfighterproject.org should now be available.
Many Thanks
Mike E
Firebex
Administrator whirlwindfighterproject.org
Hi Mike
I’m having problems registering for membership of your Project on both your original web address and your current one!! I fill in the required details but when it comes to the final line – asking me to “type in the two words you see below” – there are no words visible !! My registration attempts fail each time. Any idea what the problem is?
By the way – I’ve replied to your PM re Ray (‘Shedman’) some while ago and haven’t heard back from you – did you get the message?
Cheers
‘D1ck’
[SIZE=”1″]Was this the same Neil Williams who survived the wing failure of his Zlin aerobatic aircraft?[/SIZERegards,
This ‘historic’ thread should prove of added interest and gives more info about Neil and the ‘Zlin incident’.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=76635&highlight=Neil+Williams
I expect most people know that Neil was also our ‘resident Lancaster pilot’ during the period 1967 – 1970, flying NX611 (now famously known as East Kirkby’s “Just Jane” ) on all of her 14 flights following her return to the UK (Biggin Hill) from Australia in 1965.
I was lucky to have been onboard NX611 for her flight from Biggin to Lavenham, Suffolk on 30th March 1969 and I well remember how Neil ‘beat up’ the main runway of the former UAAF airfield at some 50 feet before successfully touching down to a tremendous reception from a large appreciative crowd of enthusiasts, Air Training Corp cadets and dignitaries.
I have very many unforgettable memories of this very unassuming, yet brilliantly talented, pilot and continue to mourne his premature departure from the skies that he will forever grace.
“Blue skies Neil”
Richard
The full story of Lancaster NX611, including the time when she was being flown by Neil Williams, can be read in the recently published book “Story of a Lanc” (5th edition) – by Brian Goulding & Richard J. A.(‘Dick’) Taylor, and is available through the ‘Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre’ website ( http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/store/books/reference/ ) – ALL proceeds going directly to the ‘Centre’, to contribute to their efforts to return “Just Jane” to an airworthy condition.
I have seen a photo of a 16 ship formation over Norwich this afternoon (14th) thanks postie !
I hope this was just a practice for tomorrow !!!! :confused:
As I intend being at Marham for the finale’ tomorrow ……Keith.
Keith
BBC Lincolnshire has not long broadcast these “expected” times for the flypast this afternoon :
Marham 13.18
Stamford 13.27
Cranwell 13.31
Waddington 13.32
Scampton 13.34
Coningsby 13.41
Cottesmore 13.41
Richard
Hi Dick, Can you please respond to my PM please?
Cheers,
James – Book request – I’ve just sent ‘pm’ with some good news. (Good chance to ‘Bump’ thread also!!)
Cheers
‘Dick’
Longer term viewers may recall a thread from 2006:- ‘The way we were – c1970’s colour’ – Ray very generously made his compete slide collection available for scanning and posting, achieving some 13,000 hits to much acclaim. RIP my good friend. ‘Mark’
Here’s the thread link – Enjoy (again) ;). I think this is an appropriate ‘resurrection’ – in tribute to a talented friend.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=63127&highlight=1970s+colour
‘Dick
Message for DaveM2
Hi Dave, just received your message – I’ve replied to you by ‘pm’ on this forum – it should be with you now. Give me a ‘pm’ with the information & I’ll deal with asap.
Regards
‘Dick
Hi Dick, Can you please respond to my PM please?
Cheers
,
Hi James, sorry for delay – ‘pm’ reply should be with you now.
Kind Regards
‘Dick’
Mine arrived today….it didn’t have too far too travel.;) Clive.
Good to hear, Clive – Hope you enjoy!! 😀
Would be good to get some feedback when you’ve got a spare few minutes.
Regards
‘Dick’
Sorry Richard, my memory is playing tricks.
The old book i have is called ‘The Last Lanc’ by Patrick Kilvington circa 1982. A cursory glance shows that it appears to cover the flight from Oz with the last chapter covering the period up to Scamptons gate. But i guess your aware of it anyhow ? Care to comment on it’s accuracy etc… please ?
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XM692 (How I really hate not knowing who I’m talking with on forum sites!! (Could you please ‘pm’ me with who you are ??) – anyway…..
I wouldn’t presume to comment on the accuracy of a publication, especially when the author had actually experienced the events described, and recorded the comments of fellow crew members; I just admire, in this case especially, his abilty to record, and indeed, recall such detail and emotion as was obviously expressed during the epic return journey of this Lancaster.
I have read the book ‘The Last Lanc’ at great length, as has my co-author on the re-write of ‘Story of a Lanc’ (Edition 5), and between us we have noted a very few ‘inaccuracies’ in Sir Patrick’s published version of events on the trip home to the UK in 1965.
It transpires that a Mr. Maurice Cooper had joined the crew of Lancaster G-ASXX (NX611) at Changi for her flight to Butterworth. He was apparently an official photographer working for the MoD / FEAF and had been assigned to fly to Butterworth on the Lanc and then to record her departure on the leg to India. To do this, Maurice had boarded an RAF Valetta of No.52 Sqn. and successfully photographed the Lanc’s departure, accompanied by a number of escort jets (Victor, Vulcan, Sabres, Canberras and Javelins). The results of Maurice’s photographic ‘mission’ are illustrated in the new book, as well as in the September 2009 edition of ‘Flypast’ magazine. Exhaustive attempts have been made by myself & Brian Goulding over the past months to make contact with Maurice, but have proved fruitless I’m afraid. We had wished to invite him to the “NX611’s 65th Anniversary” celebratory event at East Kirkby this August Bank Holiday Monday, but nobody could put us in touch – IF YOU READ THIS, MAURICE, WE’D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
Another important person who played a vital role in the safe return of G-ASXX / NX611 to the UK was the BOAC Flight Engineer, on board a Boeing 707, whose timely intervention had prevented the Lanc from almost certain disaster as she struggled to find her way through atrocious weather conditions as she approached India. That BOAC crew member was named, incorrectly, in the Kilvington book as a “Peter Barclay“. During our research for the ‘Story of a Lanc’ re-write Brian Goulding stumbled upon the truth of that particular incident when he was chatting with Peter Scoley (Metheringham Airfield Visitor Centre – south of Lincoln). during that chat, Brian was amazed to discover that that very same (former) BOAC Flt/Engineer was himself still alive and well and an active member of the ‘Metheringham Association’ !!! THAT BOAC Flt/Engineer WAS IN FACT “PETER BUTCHER” (NOT “Barclay”!), and his contribution to the continued existance of “Just Jane” at East Kirkby today has been duly recorded in our re-written account if this Lanc’s history, together with a photo of Peter and Peter Scoley on Page 83 of our book, when they attended the “65th Anniversary” event at EK.
Lastly – you will have noticed, I’m sure, that the ‘Conclusion’ chapter of “The Last Lanc” book attempts to describe the events in “Just Jane’s” life, from arrival at Biggin Hill in 1965, through to the early days of her ‘RAF Scampton’ era. Much of that information had been taken from the content of the original 2 versions of “Story of a Lanc” (1974/5), and Brian Goulding gave a good deal of assistance to Sir Patrick Kilvington, both editorial and pictorial, and a number of the B&W photos within Sir Patrick’s book were supplied by Brian (incl. from the Garbett / Goulding Collection) and some of these can also still be viewed in “SoaL”.
With regards to “accuracy” – I can only assure you of one thing as far as I’m concerned – I was personally involved with NX611 from very early on in the 1960s, through to her time at Blackpool, and what you will read in the book “SoaL” actually happened – I was there throughout, and experienced all the emotions you could possibly imagine, from elation through to dark despair, yet I wouldn’t have missed any of it for the World – “JJ’s” in my blood !!!
Hope that gives you some interesting ‘food for thought’.
Regards
‘Dick’
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XM692 – Ordered mine. Will be interesting to compare to the first edition i have :D[/QUOTE]
Good to hear you’ve placed your order for a copy of this 5th edition. I expect you’ll easily be able to spot the difference when you compare that with the first (1974) edition of the book (‘cover’ image below), published when NX611 was first ‘installed’ as RAF Scampton’s Gate Guardian. Enjoy the additional 88 pages – full of colour images, which have replaced the B&W shots wherever possible – Enjoy !!!!:D
Regards
‘Dick’