I take it that Lagos has been cleared in recent years? There used to be dozens of derelicts there including some nice Caravelles 🙁
Lagos has one 727 and about 6 737’s mostly 100/200 series, but there’s a couple of 300/400 series. There’s a few out of service airframes close to the domestic terminal area – there’s at least 1 HS-125, and a couple of choppers.
I’ll take another peek, as I am through that way on Monday and Tuesday, but not able to take photos I’m afraid…
Kind regards,
Scotty
Also of interest is the fact that the Buccaneer was equipped with an automatic underwater escape system so that on immersion of the cockpit in water the MDC and seats would fire automatically. A true zero zero capability!
Would that have been intended in the circumstance of an aircraft going over the side of a carrier at low-ish speed? It would also have to assume that the cockpit was upright, or the crew could find themselves propelled to even greater depths or into the side of a carrier!
I wonder what trials would have been done for underwater ejection, as surely propelling a body through water would have a much greater drag force than through air??? Does the system just push the ejector seat clear of the cockpit rather than a rocket propulsion?
Not sure how much use an underwater ejection system actually would be, as I’ve recovered a few military jets from the seabed, and usually there isn’t a lot left that would be ejectable from after the initial contact with the sea surface…
Just a thought…. kind of interesting!
Kind regards,
Scotty
Doesn’t get more comprehensive than that….
Cracking pics of a fine collection, you don’t automatically think of the Indonesians being interested in their aviation past, but from what I see above they clearly do!
Thanks for sharing, and if you get to see them Gannets…;)
We’ll see – I don’t have much reason for going to Surabaya, and I’m not going just to see a Gannet! Now if it was a Shack…..
The other half is starting a contract in Korea, so it is going to be some time before I am back in Java, but I’ll bear it in mind James… 😉
Kind Regards,
Scotty
Thankyou for showing us this excellent collection, well worth the visit and makes me regret not making the time to go and visit last time I had a stop over in Jakarta.They have a B25 and A26 but no B24 and only 1 Japanese item is that correct?
I cannot comment on the Jakarta aviation museum, as I have never been – I’ve just passed through Jakarta. I don’t think they will have a B24, as I am pretty sure the Indonesian AF never operated them. The Japanese types they have were captured after WWII.
Yogyakarta isn’t a place to really stop over en-route to somewhere else – it tends to be a destination for those wanting to see the largest Buddist temple in SE Asia (Borobudur) and the Hindu temple complex at Prambanan – both World Heritage sites. I only go there, as that is where the other half is from.
It is interesting to see how much they look after the aircraft, bearing in mind Indonesia isn’t too far away from being a third world country….
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing! Overall the aircraft appear cared for. I have trouble seeing the damaged glazing on the Cat though?
If you look at Catalina 0453, you can clearly see 2 holes in the nose glazing, and Catalina 0455 shows glazing missing from the stbd cupola. If you can’t see, I can post the original if you wish….
The aircraft were clean, and were cared for – no signs of dripping oil! As to how much preservation has been doneor what ongoing conservation is happening is anybodies guess – apart from the aircraft description plates, all other displays were entirely in Indonesian, and my language skills are not at a high enough level yet to fully grasp.
At least I can order food and beer…. 😉
Kind Regards,
Scotty
Indoneisian Aircraft Museum – Yogyakarta – Part 5
Some more of the Badger and some others, including a Zero…
The rear fuselage of the ‘crashed’ Dak is a replica of a Dak VT-CLA that was shot down by the Dutch Airforce just outside Yogyakarta on the 29th July 1947. This aircraft was trying to take in medical supplies and relief aid from Singapore into Yogyakarta during the armed struggle to obtain full independence from the Dutch. The aircraft was owned by the State Government of Orissa in India. I think the replica is actually fuselage of a scrapped Dak. I have seen a list that says there is a 2nd Dak at the museum, but not seen it – unless it is somewhere else on the base….
There is a diorama and models of the Dak getting shot down by the Dutch Kittyhawks, including piles of cotton wool representing smoke coming out of the Dak in the museum, but was behind glass and in poor light, so I did not get a decent photo due to reflections on the glass.
5 out of the 6 on the Dak were killed, the pilot giving his name to Yokyakarta’s international airport, which was previously known as Maguwo Landing Ground.
Hope you have enjoyed the photos!
Scotty
Indonesian Aircraft Museum – Yogyakarta Part 4
Some more photos.
The Mil 4 looked a bit stripped internally, but the airframe was in good condition….
…. to be continued
Indonesian Aircraft Museum – Yogyakarta Part 3
Some more images…
Quite sad seeing the internals of the Hillier 360 damaged, but at least the airframe is safely indoors….
…. to be continued
Indonesian Aircraft Museum Part 2
Some more images – note the damaged Catalina glazing.
It was possible to get into the Dak, the cockpit was just as it was when it was retired, with the Engineers station, Radio Op station and the Pilot’s Station – the smell of a working aircraft was still there!
Now that is something I wouldn’t expect to see in Indonesia!:)
No, it’s a pity there isn’t – I spend a lot of time over there…. However, there are some nice ales made in Singapore.
But Indonesian lager isn’t so bad (Bintang)
Will post photos of museum when I get time…
Scotty
Do you get a chance to see and photo the Gannets out there at all Scotty?
Sorry James, I didn’t. I know there to be a Gannet at one of the museums in Jakarta, and two in Surabaya, Eastern Java, but haven’t managed to see them yet.
The museum in Yogyakarta was quite an eyeopener – some very good exhibits, but some worse for wear – especially the Catalina outdoors. But given they must have next to no budget it was impressive.
Will post selected photos once I process the files. But seeing as today is the local real ale festival, I’m going to be busy elsewhere!
Kind Regards,
Scotty
Well done Eric!
It took me most of the morning, and much searching on the internet before I posted on the forum. Then of course the next thing I looked at revealed the answer…
15 mins, not too bad!
It turns out that the Indonesian AF only had 2 of these machines, so pretty rare.
Cheers, Scotty
Answered my own Question!!!
I know what it is now guys – I found the right book!!!
I’ll leave the question up to see how long it takes anybody else for a bit of fun!
Cheers!
Scotty
It’s likely a combination of oil & shadows. You can clearly see oil stains aft of the cowl on the nacell…but I don’t think the marks on the stabilizer are oil…too far away to be that perfect.
I agree…..
if #3 has lost that much oil to darken the entire nacelle to that degree…would it still be running?
Not for long!
This thread proves that too many people have too much time on their hands 😀
I can agree with that too, but I’m on a break and it’s pouring down outside… :rolleyes: