Hi all,
Thanks for your responses. I’m now no longer in torment!
Will be purchasing a copy when I get home.
Kind Regards
Scotty
Just a thought?
If the aircraft shadow plates were used for planning where to fit in aircraft, would they not also take in the fact that most naval aircraft of the era could fold their wings? None of the plates show this.
Space is at a premium on a ship!
Scotty
Shame to see the H21 in such a state.
Not sure the reliance on the structure’s integrity for lifting is a good idea…. Aluminium doesn’t like seawater, and I’ve a horrible feeling what comes up will not be in one piece. I’ve seen what salt water does to aluminium even when protected by magnesium anodes. It’s not a told you so, but more of I hope it doesn’t happen. But not knowing the wreck was lying on chalk bedrock is a bit careless. The seabed in the southern sector moves at some rate, and that contingency should have been allowed for, especially after prolonged heavy seas…
Wishing the team success.
Scotty
Without too much speculation. I’d say he over cooked his manoeuvre. Too low.
Glad he’s ok though.
Kind Regards,
Scotty
The fuselage had to be cut in two to get it in! I think that the MOSI Shackleton is a permanent fixture.
Regards
I think cut is a bit dramatic. I knew some of the 8Sqn guys who dissembled WR960. Transport joints are a handy thing….
Kind Regards
Scotty
Restoration?
I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t break up when removed from sand. Seawater does nasty things to Aluminium if not properly cathodically protected. I hope I am wrong though.
Kind regards,
Scotty
Look at the bottom of the page 🙂
I saw that too. Interesting requirement for the tail wheel. Wonder if it was a mistake or an accidental slip?
Scotty
Death traps, the whole lot of the EC225/ Puma / Tiger range. Give me a S61 or S92 any day….
Lossiemouth – it’s last in-service home?
Waddington – 8 Sqn’s home? (now THAT would make an interesting addition to the annual airshow if ground run :D)
I realise that both the above are active RAF bases with all their own issues of access to work on her, plus location issues to get crew to work on her… but trying to think of related locations in my head that’s all 🙂
Also both Lossiemouth and 8 Sqn aren’t really connected to an MR 2 apart from the ones used up to the early 80’s for crew training…. Might have been more relevant if in AEW config, but shame to undo all that good work.
Anyway, back to the thread…
Spoke to said gentleman this evening and his answer to my question of “how did you manage to wangle that one then” was:
“Martin Withers phoned me up last week and said “We haven’t seen you for a while so how would you like to come along for a trip this weekend?””
I then asked: ” where did you fly from then?” to which he replied: “Robin Hood airport – we took off and went to Shoreham, then to Southport and then Cholmondley Castle (the car event) and then back, over Lincoln and back to base. Flight took two and a half hours”.
“So, where did you sit then?” I asked. He replied “sat in the coal hole for take-off and landing then stood between the pilots for the entire flight”
What do you reckon then, Chaps? Dogs Bo**ocks of a trip – or Bull**it?
Sniff, sniff. I think I smell something:D
Anon.
Ever thought the person you suspect of telling whoppers has read this forum for info, and is indeed reading this very thread??
Just a thought…
Kind Regards,
Scotty
With that marked paintwork, it could only have been WL756 – Mr Rusty…. Any idea how the cockpit resto for 756 is coming on?
Even if I take a very low figure of 200knots, it means in just a second the aircraft would have flown 6.2Km. But from the above info, the plane crashed into the mountains just 1.5Km from the last reported contact with ATC. Which means (??), the aircraft descended right onto the mountain top and not did even have a second to know what was ahead??? 😮
I would suggest you look at your maths.
200kt = 220mph = 354km/h
3600 secs in an hour therefore 354/3600 =0.098
in a second at 200kt, it would have travelled 98m.
Being too low in patchy rainclouds within a mountainous area usually ends badly, regardless of reaction time.
Kind Regards,
Scotty
According to the local teatime news, the chopper is still afloat as we speak. Just need a vessel with a crane to pick it up. As I join such a vessel in Aberdeen harbour tomorrow, I wonder if that is our first job, or will I get an extra day at home while they go out to do it tonight!
Of course, it also depends on what ship they use!
Kind Regards,
Scotty
TG559?
TG559 would also fit the bill, although quite a bit before 1957, it also crashed at Abingdon, with the port wing and horizontal stabilizer / elevator being ripped off.
Rest of the fuselage looks ok.
Got to love the ‘Under New Management’ on the ground trainer!
Kind Regards,
Scotty