Before you find this thread all too boring and nod off, perhaps you could answer my unanswered PM and forum questions about the R5/3 and DB191A blades?
Oh, very sorry but I thought I had answered that one but sure enough it would appear I have not.
Sorry to say I don’t have the specs you are looking for.
Sorry about that.
Have I said sorry yet?
Anne
Sorry,
Amendment List 1 to post 12.
Scrub XI and insert IX
Yawn…time to wake up…there is a prop thread to but into.
Rotol R2/4F5/2 & R2/4F5/3 props used on the Spitfire VI along with the R3/4F5/2 & R3/4F5/3 props used on the Spitfires VII, VIII & XI (Wrong! see post 14) all used Dural blades.
Back to bed…
Anne
To my knowledge the TR9 was out of use by 1941.
Only in Fighter Command, various types of TR9s were still the R/T of choice in other Commands until about 1944.
Anne
The dH9A recovered from Krakow has been in Hendon since 2003
True but I and I think Sadsack are talking about a different aircraft.
Anne
The DH9a was recovered but I’m not sure it was India. Somewhere close though.
Don’t you just love new posters who come here saying that they know something we don’t know then refuse to tell you what it is because it may just dent their over inflated sense of moral and intellectual superiority. :rolleyes:
Or it could be they have been asked not to say and they are honouring that agreement.
Pop along in a day or two and have a look.
All other guesses are wrong :cool:.
It’s not a F2b…and that is not a guess!:D
Anne
Aah…the resurrection of the trolley acc thread.
That’s a nice one they have there Varsity. Not many of those left.
Now I’ve been doing some digging and I think I now know what Graham’s trolley is. It’s an Mk.4, Section Ref. 4G/1717. These utilised the frame work of earlier trolleys but had a larger box structure on top. This meant that the box had to be raised above the level of the axils and it also meant that the cable could no longer be stowed round the side. I’ve added a photo of a war time example (with post war additions) to illustrate. Date wise, the earliest reference I’ve found for the Mk.4 is 1949 but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are around a couple of years before that before that.
The knowledge was forced upon me!
Good luck with trying to find bits but I have the feeling you’re looking for a flock of chickens with nashers.
DH Type 4/4 is a bracket type prop which shares a number of parts with the props used on the Blenheim (4/1, 4/3 & 4/7), Lysander III (4/5), Master II and Martinet (4/8). The problem you may have noticed is that they are all Mercury powered so unlike the Peregrine they’re left handed.
Blade DP54409
Spider P4310-4 (all Type 4 props use variations of the P4310)
Barrel P4300-2 & P4301 (common to all Type 4s)
Piston P4340-3/A/1 (all Type 4 props use variations of the P4340)
Counterweight P4320-2 (all Type 4 props use variations of the P4320)
Counterweight Cap P4321 (common to all Type 4s)
Counterweight Bracket P4322-2 (all Type 4 props use variations of the P4322)
Cylinder P4330-4 (all Type 4 props use variations of the P4330)
CSU AX9
Spinner P30200A/C
Hope that helps (not sure it does).
Anne
Have a word with Bob Gardener of Aero Clocks. He restored the one and only Watts Spitfire prop I know of. Quite a few Hurricane Watts props about (most claiming to be Spitfire) but they are quite different.
Have you thought about an apprenticeship? The RAF Museum and I think IWM run them.
http://www.rafmaf.org/apprenticeship-program.cfm
Anne
It’s all starting to make sense now. You have a blade which appears to be an original RA10064 JCS blade made by Horden-Richmond Ltd. Someone has restored it but has apply the wrong markings to it.
I also suspect this blade was actually damaged at some point because the tip is a lot more rounded than it should be and I can’t make out any sign of the brass leading edge.
I couldn’t tell you the date of manufacture but there isn’t anything I can see which suggests it is not a wartime blade.
So what is wrong with the markings?
1 The drawing numbers do not match. One says JCS the other says RTS
2 The disk is the wrong colour. For a Jablo blade it should be pink (although the colour can range from dull pink to brick red).
3 The information in the disk does not follow the Rotol guidelines. If it was a mass balanced blade it should have JCS or CS above the letter R and the serial 57226 below.
Other points of concern include the fact I can see brush marks in the black paint, the information in the disk has been added using a stencil, (for the smaller lettering it was normally done free hand) and the gap between the RA and 10064 on the drawing number is certainly unusual.
So are the markings definately ‘restored’? Well I think so.
The JCS marking seems to be strikeout. What does it mean?
J is for Jablo, the type of blade made from compressed birch boards.
C is for Cristofin, the covering on the blade which is a thermo-plastic resin.
S is for Sheath denoting that the leading edge has a brass sheath.
Aaah…hadn’t thought about it being a restored blade. That would explain a lot. Someone has restored it a panted it incorrectly.
I’d go with the information on the adaptor ring.
RA 10046 JCS
The drawing number with a suffix telling you that it’s a Jablo blade with a Cristofin covering and a Simple brass sheath on the leading edge.
JPC1832 / C RS
HRA 57226 C
These two bits of info suggest two companies have been involved with this blade. JPC is the Jablo Propeller Company (also known as F.Hills & Sons at one point in their lives) and HRA is Horden-Richmond Ltd.
S17 (1)822
Not a clue!