I am new to the area but have had a quick look at a map. Can any locals suggest a good viewing point thanks.
There is a good guide under the SPOTTING link here:-
I note ‘serials’ has WV910 w/o in 1958 and sent to ETPS for ground instruction. Dad has a 50 minute ‘famil’ flight logged on 29th April 1959, so that info is not quite correct.
WV910 was certified Cat HX on 2/5/58 (not w/o).
Cat HX indicates that the aircraft may have been repairable on-site, so may well have subsequently flown again.
I must say, I dont understand the current set up… some stuff goes through the web site… Then people like Everett get huge quantities of stuff that is never made available to the general public.
Look at it from DSA viewpoint.
Option 1. Sell it all off as a job lot to a single purchaser with a proven track record of payment, collection, expertise and knowledge of handling the exotic types of materials that many modern aircraft have.
Option 2. Try to sell them off to individuals or museums who often may lack the resources, skill, knowledge and funds to undertake such a task. This could possibly leave DSA/MoD with uncollected hunks of metal if transport falls through for example. Or they may then have to go through the re-bidding process again because someone cannot stump up the funds. Or the buyer cannot prove to have the ability to handle dangerous materials.
All of the above scenarios (and more) have occurred in the past. As far as DSA is concerned, why should they bother going to the trouble when, to them, it is just some surplus equipment? Far easier to go with Option 1, as it is likely to be the easiest method of getting funds back with the minimum aggravation.
And I expect Everett etc will make them available to the general public in due course, as they are running a business and it is in their interest to do so.
As a Greenford resident, this got me a little curious….:eek:
Had a look at your website, and it’s not or wasn’t in Greenford. It was taken at Vanguard’s wharehouse in Alperton.
You can see the nose of the ex-56 Sqn Lightning F.3 that they had aswell. They did have the whole Lightning initially but eventually scrapped the rest and kept the cockpit section. Vanguard also used to have a Hunter as well, which on a few occasions they craned up on top of the roof of the building.
Their address IS Greenford:-
Vanguard Storage Services Ltd, Alperton Lane, Greenford, Middlesex, UB6 8AA
A bit more up-to date (from the ukserials website)
AS001/133 7L-WA Eurofighter f/f 21/03/2007 as 98+40, d/d Zeltweg 12/07/2007
AS002/142 7L-WB Eurofighter f/f 09/07/2007 as 98+41, d/d Zeltweg 13/09/2007
AS003/143 7L-WC Eurofighter Ex 98+42, d/d Zeltweg 12/12/2007
AS004/144 7L-WD Eurofighter f/f 27/11/2007 as 98+43, d/d Zeltweg 21/12/2007
AS005/145 7L-WE Eurofighter f/f 08/11/2007 as 98+44, d/d Zeltweg 15/04/2008
AS006/148 7L-WF Eurofighter Ex 98+45, d/d Zeltweg 05/06/2008
AS007/164 31+14 Eurofighter f/f 05/09/2008 as 98+08
AS008/171 31+15 Eurofighter
AS009/176 31+16 Eurofighter
AS010/178 31+17 Eurofighter
AS011/183 31+18 Eurofighter
AS012/187 31+19 Eurofighter
AS013/191 31+20 Eurofighter
AS014/194 31+21 Eurofighter
AS015/198 31+22 Eurofighter
BS001/037 ZJ910 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 10/05/2007, d/d Coningsby 09/07/2007
BS002/041 ZJ911 Typhoon F2 f/f 04/07/2005, d/d Coningsby 31/08/2005
BS003/044 ZJ912 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 26/04/2005, d/d Coningsby 21/06/2005
BS004/047 ZJ913 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 21/12/2004, d/d Coningsby 01/04/2005
BS005/051 ZJ914 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 29/04/2005, d/d Coningsby 07/06/2005
BS006/053 ZJ915 Typhoon F2 f/f 11/07/2005, d/d Coningsby 20/09/2005
BS007/057 ZJ916 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 12/09/2005, d/d Coningsby 14/10/2005
BS008/059 ZJ917 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 14/10/2005, d/d Coningsby 02/12/2005
BS009/062 ZJ918 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 15/12/2005, d/d Coningsby 28/02/2006
BS010/064 ZJ919 Typhoon F2 f/f 30/03/2006, d/d Coningsby 26/05/2006
BS011/067 ZJ920 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 27/09/2005, d/d Coningsby 18/11/2005
BS012/069 ZJ921 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 24/10/2005, d/d Coningsby 16/12/2005
BS013/073 ZJ922 Typhoon F2 f/f 06/01/2006, d/d Coningsby 27/02/2006
BS014/075 ZJ923 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 27/02/2006, d/d Coningsby 10/04/2006
BS015/077 ZJ924 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 10/03/2006, d/d Coningsby 28/04/2006
BS016/080 ZJ925 Typhoon F2 f/f 11/04/2006, d/d Coningsby 07/06/2006
BS017/083 ZJ926 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 09/05/2006, d/d Coningsby 07/07/2006
BS018/089 ZJ927 Typhoon F2 f/f 15/06/2006, d/d Coningsby 08/08/2006
BS019/094 ZJ928 Typhoon F2 f/f 16/05/2006, d/d Coningsby 25/07/2006
BS020/096 ZJ929 Typhoon F2 f/f 04/07/2006, d/d Coningsby 26/09/2006
BS021/099 ZJ930 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 01/08/2006, d/d Coningsby 22/06/2007
BS022/103 ZJ931 Typhoon F2 f/f 11/08/2006, d/d Coningsby 09/10/2006
BS023/105 ZJ932 Typhoon F2 f/f 07/09/2006, d/d Coningsby 21/11/2006
BS024/108 ZJ933 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 08/11/2006, d/d Coningsby 05/09/2007
BS025/111 ZJ934 Typhoon F2 f/f 12/10/2006, d/d Coningsby 05/01/2007
BS026/115 ZJ935 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 18/12/2006, d/d Coningsby 20/12/2007
BS027/119 ZJ936 Typhoon F2 f/f 12/02/2007, d/d Coningsby 12/04/2007
BS028/121 ZJ937 Typhoon F2 f/f 23/02/2007, d/d Coningsby 14/05/2007
BS031/131/IPA6 ZJ938 Typhoon IPA f/f 01/11/2007
BS032/124 ZJ939 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 22/06/2007, d/d Coningsby 06/08/2007
BS033/127 ZJ940 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 05/07/2007, d/d Coningsby 20/09/2007
BS034/135 ZJ941 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 24/07/2007, d/d Coningsby 06/09/2007
BS035/137 ZJ942 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 28/08/2007, d/d Coningsby 08/11/2007
BS036/140 ZJ943 Typhoon FGR4 f/f 21/11/2007, d/d Coningsby 10/01/2008, suffered a wheels-up landing at China Lake 23/04/2008
BS037/149 ZJ944 Typhoon First UK Tranche 2 aircraft
BS038/154 ZJ945 Typhoon f/f 04/09/2008
BS039/155 ZJ946 Typhoon f/f 06/08/2008, d/d Coningsby 21/10/2008
BS040/159 ZJ947 Typhoon f/f 11/08/2008, d/d Coningsby 21/10/2008
BS041/160 ZJ948 Typhoon f/f 09/10/2008
BS045/175 ZJ949 Typhoon
BS047/182 ZJ950 Typhoon
BS052/200 ZK300 Typhoon
BS053/202 ZK301 Typhoon
BS054/206 ZK302 Typhoon
BT001/004 ZJ800 Typhoon T1 f/f 14/02/2003, d/d Case White 29/04/2004
BT002/008 ZJ801 Typhoon T3 f/f 01/10/2004, d/d Case White 29/10/2004, d/d Coningsby 04/05/2005
BT003/011 ZJ802 Typhoon T1 f/f 16/07/2003, d/d Case White 19/12/2003, d/d Coningsby 03/2005
BT004/013 ZJ803 Typhoon T1 f/f 27/08/2003, d/d Case White 18/12/2003, d/d Coningsby 30/03/2005
BT005/016 ZJ804 Typhoon T1 f/f 11/05/2004
BT006/019 ZJ805 Typhoon T1 f/f 29/01/2004, d/d Case White 12/03/2004, d/d Coningsby 06/06/2005
BT007/023 ZJ806 Typhoon T1 f/f 27/02/2004, d/d Case White 02/04/2004, d/d Coningsby 21/06/2005
BT008/025 ZJ807 Typhoon T3 f/f 18/03/2004, d/d Case White 26/04/2004, d/d Coningsby 19/05/2005
BT009/028 ZJ808 Typhoon T1 f/f 10/05/2004, d/d Case White 29/06/2004, d/d Coningsby 01/07/2005
BT010/032 ZJ809 Typhoon T3 f/f 10/06/2004, d/d Case White 29/07/2004, d/d Coningsby 13/05/2005
BT011/033 ZJ810 Typhoon T1 f/f 30/07/2004, d/d Case White 26/08/2004, d/d Coningsby 01/07/2005. Damaged 17/01/2006 after nosewheel failed to deploy before landing.
BT012/049 ZJ811 Typhoon T1A f/f 13/01/2005, d/d Coningsby 11/04/2005
BT013/085 ZJ812 Typhoon T1A f/f 22/08/2005, d/d Coningsby 07/10/2005
BT014/091 ZJ813 Typhoon T1A f/f 04/11/2005, d/d Coningsby 06/01/2006
BT015/113 ZJ814 Typhoon T1A f/f 22/11/2006, d/d Coningsby 16/02/2007
BT016/129 ZJ815 Typhoon T3 f/f 10/10/2007, d/d Coningsby 29/11/2007
CS001/165 ZK060 Typhoon f/f 20/10/2008, for RSAF as 1001
CS002/168 ZK061 Typhoon For RSAF
CS003/172 ZK062 Typhoon For RSAF
CS004/180 ZK063 Typhoon For RSAF
CS005/186 ZK064 Typhoon For RSAF
CS006/189 ZK065 Typhoon For RSAF
CS007/193 ZK066 Typhoon For RSAF
CS008/197 ZK068 Typhoon For RSAF
CS009/256 ZK075 Typhoon For RSAF
CS010/260 ZK076 Typhoon For RSAF
CS011/271 ZK077 Typhoon For RSAF
CS012/274 ZK078 Typhoon For RSAF
CS013/279 ZK079 Typhoon For RSAF
CS014/281 ZK080 Typhoon For RSAF
CS015/290 ZK081 Typhoon For RSAF
CS016/293 ZK082 Typhoon For RSAF
CS017/301 ZK083 Typhoon For RSAF
CS018/304 ZK084 Typhoon For RSAF
CT001/235 ZK069 Typhoon T For RSAF
CT002/237 ZK070 Typhoon T For RSAF
CT003/241 ZK071 Typhoon T For RSAF
CT004/243 ZK072 Typhoon T For RSAF
CT005/248 ZK073 Typhoon T For RSAF
CT006/251 ZK074 Typhoon T For RSAF
DA1 ZH586 Eurofighter 2000 f/f 27/03/1994, DASA built DA1 (98+29), UK serial n.t.u, temporary to XC.16-02, last flight 21/12/2005, ex Manching 15/03/07 to Oberschleissheim
DA2 ZH588 Eurofighter 2000 f/f 06/04/1994, last flight 29/01/2007, pres. RAF Museum, Hendon
DA3 MMX602 Eurofighter f/f 04/06/1995, last flight 07/02/2006
DA4 ZH590 Eurofighter 2000(T) f/f 14/03/1997, last flight 13/12/2006, w.f.u. to Coningsby
DA5 98+30 Eurofighter f/f 24/02/1997
DA6 XCE.16-01 Eurofighter f/f 31/08/1996, w/o 21/11/2002
DA7 MMX603 Eurofighter f/f 27/01/1997, last flight 30/04/2004
GS001/039 30+06 Eurofighter f/f 11/04/2005, d/d 04/07/2005
GS002/040 30+07 Eurofighter f/f 22/10/2004 as 98+39, d/d 24/02/2005, d/d 14/10/2005 to Kaufbeuren for G.I.
GS003/046 7L-WJ Eurofighter f/f 24/11/2004 as 98+40, to 30+08, d/d Laage 14/06/2006
GS004/048 30+09 Eurofighter f/f 15/02/2005, d/d 08/04/2006
GS005/052 30+11 Eurofighter f/f 15/04/2005, d/d 14/06/2006
GS006/056 30+12 Eurofighter f/f 01/07/2005, d/d 26/07/2005
GS007/058 30+13 Eurofighter f/f 13/07/2005, d/d 06/11/2006
GS008/061 30+15 Eurofighter f/f 09/08/2005, d/d 09/12/2005
GS009/065 30+16 Eurofighter f/f 08/11/2005, d/d 26/01/2006
GS010/068 30+18 Eurofighter f/f 04/10/2005, d/d 02/11/2005
GS011/074 30+19 Eurofighter f/f 14/11/2005, d/d 26/01/2006
GS012/078 30+21 Eurofighter f/f 01/12/2005
GS013/081 30+22 Eurofighter f/f 11/04/2006, d/d 31/05/2006
GS014/088 30+23 Eurofighter f/f 11/04/2006, d/d 28/07/2006
GS015/090 30+25 Eurofighter f/f 31/05/2006, d/d 26/07/2006
GS016/095 30+26 Eurofighter f/f 19/10/2006, d/d Neuburg 19/12/2006
GS017/100 30+28 Eurofighter f/f 11/07/2006, d/d 22/08/2006
GS018/104 30+29 Eurofighter f/f 12/09/2006, d/d 30/10/2006
GS019/106 30+30 Eurofighter f/f 12/09/2006
GS020/114 30+32 Eurofighter f/f 17/11/2006, d/d Neuburg 17/12/2007
GS021/116 30+33 Eurofighter f/f 06/11/2006, d/d Neuburg 17/12/2007
GS024/120 7L-WG Eurofighter f/f 02/08/2007 as 30+37, d/d Zeltweg 29/04/2008
GS025/123 30+39 Eurofighter f/f 16/03/2007, d/d Neuburg 11/07/2007
GS026/130 30+40 Eurofighter d/d 04/09/2007
GS027/134 7L-WH Eurofighter f/f 02/08/2007 as 30+41, d/d Zeltweg 20/12/2007
GS028/139 7L-WI Eurofighter f/f 06/06/2008 as 30+43, d/d Zeltweg 15/07/2008
GS029/151/IPA7 98+07 Eurofighter f/f 16/01/2008 (ex 30+44)
GS030/153 98+08 Eurofighter f/f 05/09/2008
GT001/007 30+01 Eurofighter T f/f 13/02/3003 as 98+31, d/d 17/12/2003
GT002/009 30+02 Eurofighter T f/f 20/08/2003 as 98+32, d/d 29/09/2003
GT003/012 30+03 Eurofighter T f/f 30/06/2003 as 98+33, d/d 04/08/2003
GT004/018 30+04 Eurofighter T f/f 22/08/2003 as 98+34, d/d 08/10/2003
GT005/021 30+05 Eurofighter T f/f 09/12/2003 as 98+35, d/d 14/01/2004
GT006/024 30+10 Eurofighter T f/f 11/04/2004 as 98+36, d/d 28/04/2004
GT007/027 30+14 Eurofighter T f/f 11/12/2003 as 98+37, d/d 22/04/2004
GT008/029 30+17 Eurofighter T f/f 22/02/2004 as 98+38, d/d 26/05/2004
GT009/072 30+20 Eurofighter T f/f 29/11/2005, d/d 08/02/2006
GT010/084 30+24 Eurofighter T f/f 06/02/2006, d/d 26/07/2006
GT011/098 30+27 Eurofighter T f/f 11/07/2006, d/d 01/09/2006
GT012/110 30+31 Eurofighter T f/f 23/11/2006, d/d Laage 10/01/2007
GT013/126 30+35 Eurofighter T f/f 03/04/2007, d/d Neuburg 28/06/2007
GT014/136 30+38 Eurofighter T f/f 01/10/2007
GT015/146 30+42 Eurofighter T f/f 08/01/2008, d/d Neuburg 26/03/2008
IPA1/PT001/001 ZJ699 Typhoon f/f 15/04/2002
IPA2/PT002/002 MMX614 Eurofighter f/f 05/04/2002
IPA3/PT003/003 98+03 Eurofighter f/f 08/04/2002
IPA4/PS001/030 C.16-20 Eurofighter f/f 27/02/2004
IPA5/PS002/034 ZJ700 Typhoon f/f 07/06/2004
IS001/038/ISPA2 MM7235 Eurofighter f/f 09/07/2004
IS002/043 MM7270 Eurofighter f/f 17/12/2004, d/d 19/04/2005
IS003/050 MM7271 Eurofighter
IS004/055 MM7272 Eurofighter
IS005/060 MM7273 Eurofighter
IS006/071 MM7274 Eurofighter
IS007/076 MM7275 Eurofighter
IS008/082 MM7276 Eurofighter
IS009/087 MM7277 Eurofighter
IS010/092 MM7278 Eurofighter
IS011/097 MM7279 Eurofighter
IS012/107 MM7280 Eurofighter
IS013/112 MM7281 Eurofighter Ex CSX7281
IS014/118 MM7282 Eurofighter
IS016/122 MM7284 Eurofighter
IS017/128 MM7285 Eurofighter
IS018/132 MM7286 Eurofighter
IS019/138 MM7287 Eurofighter
IT001/005 MM55092 Eurofighter T f/f 14/02/2003, d/d 19/02/2004, to CSX55092, rtnd MM55092
IT002/010 MM55093 Eurofighter T d/d 16/03/2004
IT003/015 MM55094 Eurofighter T d/d 08/04/2004
IT004/022 MM55095 Eurofighter T d/d 01/04/2004
IT005/026 MM55096 Eurofighter T d/d 15/07/2004
IT006/031 MM55097 Eurofighter T d/d 06/10/2004
IT007/066 MM55128 Eurofighter T
IT008/102 MM55129 Eurofighter T
IT009/147 MM55130 Eurofighter T
SS001/042 C.16-21 Eurofighter d/d 29/12/2004
SS002/054 C.16-22 Eurofighter
SS003/063 C.16-23 Eurofighter d/d 29/06/2005
SS004/070 C.16-24 Eurofighter
SS005/079 C.16-25 Eurofighter
SS006/086 C.16-26 Eurofighter f/f 04/11/2005
SS007/101 C.16-27 Eurofighter
SS008/109 C.16-28 Eurofighter
SS009/117 C.16-29 Eurofighter
SS011/125 C.16-30 Eurofighter f/f 26/12/2006, d/d Moron 30/03/2007
ST001/006 CE.16-01 Eurofighter T f/f 17/02/2003, d/d 04/09/2003
ST002/014 CE.16-02 Eurofighter T d/d 15/01/2004
ST003/020 CE.16-03 Eurofighter T d/d 27/02/2004
ST004/035 CE.16-04 Eurofighter T d/d 05/08/2004
ST005/036 CE.16-05 Eurofighter T d/d 30/07/2004
ST006/045 CE.16-06 Eurofighter T
ST007/093 CE.16-07 Eurofighter T
ST008/141 CE.16-08 Eurofighter T d/d 13/08/2007
TR001/017 TR001 Eurofighter Static Fatigue Test Rig
EOC1 and EOC2 were replaced by P1E and P2E.
P2E is now dead, as future ‘big step’ upgrades are being replaced by a more rapid, iterative and flexible process.
Could this also be described as a more modest, realistic, cheaper and achieveable process?
The post was mine originally.
I wasn’t informed of the reason it was moved, I wonder if it struck a raw nerve with someone.
Anyway, I pm’d a moderator asking for the reason but never got a reply.
The post was mine originally.
I wasn’t informed of the reason it was moved, I wonder if it struck a raw nerve with someone.
Anyway, I pm’d a moderator asking for the reason but never got a reply.
Thanks to all who took the trouble to reply.
It seems that both Bf.109 and Me.109 are equally valid.
Just read the below thread and noticed that Elvington now has a Tornado. I know that Duxford have one on display but didnt realise that they had been offered for disposal. Have the RAF offered some for sale or is this one on loan?
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?p=1248486#post1248486
Seems strange to see an aircraft so modern in museums. Am I getting old? 😮
I have the following as museum/preserved:-
P02 XX946 WT, 8883M Museum Cosford, Shropshire Apr 2008
P03 XX947 P03, 8797M Preserved Shoreham Airfield, West Sussex Sep 2007
P06 XX948 Museum Hermeskeil, Germany Apr 2008
P12 XZ630 8976M Preserved Halton, Buckinghamshire Oct 2006
P15 XZ631 Museum Elvington, York Aug 2007
BT001/001/3001 ZA319 GR1 9315M Preserved Arncott, Oxfordshire Mar 200
BS007/030/3015 ZA354 GR1 Museum Elvington, York Aug 2007
BT012/043/3023 ZA362 GR1 TR Museum Inverness, Highlands, Scotland Feb 2008
BS056/178/3088 ZA374 GR1 ‘ZD374’ Museum Wright Patterson, Ohio, USA
BS074/219/3106 ZA407 GR1 9336M Preserved Marham, Norfolk Jul 2006
BS087/259/3123 ZA457 GR1 AJ-J Museum Hendon, Barnet May 2008
BS095/278/3131 ZA465 GR1 FF Museum Duxford, Cambridgeshire Dec 2007
BS105/302/3141 ZA475 GR1 Preserved Lossiemouth, Moray, Scotland Feb2008
BS114/326/3151 ZD710 GR1 (C) Private Barnstaple, Devon Nov 2007
AS005/453/3207 ZD936 F2 (C) Museum Boscombe Down, Wiltshire Feb 2008
AS007/464/3212 ZD938 F2 (C), (F) EADS Germany Stored Market Drayton area, Shropshire. Feb 2008
AS014/509/3229 ZE159 F3 UV Stored Potto, North Yorkshire Nov 2007
AS057/681/3307 ZE760 F3 AP Preserved Coningsby, Lincolnshire Apr 2008
AS080/728/3333 ZE836 F3 36-12 Preserved Vigna di Valle, Italy Oct 2007
AT037/778/3362 ZE934 F3 TA Museum East Fortune, East Lothian, Scotland Sep 2007
AT042/800/3378 ZE966 F3 VT Stored Manchester Museum Nov 2007
AT043/801/3379 ZE967 F3 UT Preserved Leuchars, Fife, Scotland May 2007
GS028 43+55 IDS Ex GN Museum Nordholz, Germany Aug 2006
GS034 43+61 IDS Ex GAF, wears ’43+00′ Museum Gatow – Museum, Germany Aug 2006
GS041 43+68 IDS Ex GAF Preserved Lechfeld, Germany Sept 2007
GS043 43+70 IDS Ex GAF Preserved Buchel, Germany Jun 2006
GS059 43+86 IDS Ex GAF Preserved Munich-Karlsfeld, Germany Sept 2007
GS073 44+08 IDS Ex GAF Stored Aurich, Germany Aug 2007
GS096 44+35 IDS Ex GAF Preserved Koln-Bonn, Germany Apr 2007
GS100 44+43 IDS Ex GAF Preserved Birkenfeld, Germany Jun 2007
GS107 44+50 IDS (N), ex GAF Museum Gatow – Museum, Germany Oct 2006
GS113 44+56 IDS Ex GAF Museum Gatow – Museum, Germany Sept 2006
GS137 44+84 IDS Ex GAF Preserved Furstenfeldbruck, Germany Apr 2008
P01 98+04 D-9591, red/white colours Preserved Erding, Germany May 2006
P07 98+06 Ex GAF Preserved Baarlo, Netherlands Mar 2008
P09 MM587 IDS Ex AMI, wears ‘MM5321’ Travelling Exhibit Cameri, Italy Mar 2007
Noise levels
Doesn’t Typhoon usually take off in dry (without afterburner)?
Does that make much difference?
Apologies for this as a first post, but im a bit of a lurker on this forum.
Im fairly interested in it, but would like to know what its off.. I have asked the
chap but he doesnt know. Does anyone out there know??Thanks
Looks like it’s off a pillowcase to me
ZZ999 is a LONG way away.
In actual fact, they have been allocating serials into some of the old “blackout blocks” recently, and if this was to continue then there should be no sign of reaching ZZ999 for very many decades.
Lightning painted and modified to look like a MiG-21, Laarbruch late 1980’s