Terminator should win that one! 😎 Being of Austrian origin, he could be silently pushing some awkward pro-European policy 😉

BTW, with the Diebold election system Republicans will win, even if they set a horse as a candidate.. 🙂 Anyway, I still look to the 2008 elections in hope. They cannot possibly elect a greater idiot than the one sitting in the Oval office now.. :p

ho ho ho….DONT COUNT ON IT !!! :dev2:

originally posted by SUflanker;

“Does everybody here get there info about the US from the crappy movies Hollywood puts out.”

NOPE …but its obvious that some Americans do! and then they use the same medium to learn about the rest of the world….

Lepracauns dont really exist guys…despite all you have heard!

Sherlock Holmes isnt still living in Baker street…he never lived at all !!!

and the US Navy DIDNT capture THAT u boat…

Ben Afflick didnt win the BOB..

ohhh… and there were NO WMD in Iraq…

Saddam WASNT involved in 9/11

etc

etc

etc….

Shah had too little support to sustain on the long run. I personally find him much better than Khomeini but apparently his own people didn’t. It was their decision.

…and sure isnt that what America is promoting worldwide..DEMOCRACY…the choice of the people…ahhhh but only on america’s terms….

I have always found the concept *Every good President must have fought in some war and he who has not is a bloody coward* as totally insane. I personally would not want a former soldier for a President. I rather take someone from Wall Street.

RIGHT ON !!!! in americanese !!!

These wars are 1. generally very poorly media covered 2. do not have a global reach on the whole planet. We simply learn too little to bother and that makes us ignorant to what is happening there..

one important factor…..Mostly coloured..AND NO OIL !

Have you seen the movie Hotel Rwanda? Very recommended!!!!!

Damned right…very very powerfull

You are utterly wrong. Look. A typical rightist living in the States is nationalistically oriented and as such probably a strong Bush supporter. But, a typical European rightist is interested in European interests, not American and as such is anti-Bush. For example, I am a typical rightist voter (never voted left and never will) and I am still against Bush’s policy.

The differnce being that we have learned form the mistakes of the past..IE; Blind nationalism leads to disaster…

What you are missing is a global overview, buddy, you are only concentrated on your own piece of dirt.

American foreign policy to a tee!!!!

KEV 35;

Posting 118 has to be one of the most brilliant succinct explanations of this situation that i have come across…maybe if some of our American friends will read same in a moment of quiet reflection you will see the REAL meaning of his words and perhaps just perhaps see what a hell of a lot of the rest of us can see all too clearly…You have been sold a lie lads and your young men and women are still dying because of it…

Phantom II ..none of us despises you ( only your governement ) and i think i can say we all hope you come back intact whether you fly a C130 or an F16.But just remember that there are victims on every side ..

that kid throwing rocks may have seen his mother or sister raped and murdered

That Marine might have scraped his pals blood from his uniform..

That woman screaming in your face may have lost her kids to a misdirected cluster bomb..

That Helo pilot with the nervous tick may have had to fly out too many body bags..

And now guess what, everyone else on this planet does exactly the same.. And one day someone comes to a decision that the best way to serve his interests is to bomb the sh!t out of some building in the USA. And he will do that without hesitation and without considering collateral damage.. And that is where the whole mess comes from. Ignorance..

Very well said…

a point that seems to have been missed by some of our American posters….

I wonder will attitudes to the use of indiscrimate munitions change all of a sudden if, god forbid , this happens?

Maybe the best example of this is when American troops forced local German citizens to clear up several concentration camps liberated towards the end of the War..having read the story of once such former ardent Nazi it certainly changed his attitude to others..

” do unto others as you would have them do onto you….”

Phantom II…

“At the end of the day I care little for the opinions of anyone outside my family or friend circle. What you think of me, my country, or what we are doing is of very little importance to me. You may hate me, despite me, or whatever else and it won’t for a second affect how I live my daily life. That’s the great thing about the internet….I never have to come into personal contact with any of you. Technology is a great thing wouldn’t you guys agree?”

With that kind of attitude is it any wonder that the rest of the world are worried ??? dont you wonder why the most of the rest of the world DOESNT see things your way???

P.S.

I’ve been very fortunate. I’ve never served in the Armed Forces

After reading that statement I really have to wonder just how much you actually do care for the people who serve your nation. In my opinion when you live in a country where you take freedom for granted (England in your case correct?), then one should never consider themselves “fortunate” not to serve in their country’s armed forces to defend their fellow citizens and their way of life. Am I saying everyone should want to join the military in their respective nation? No. Do I criticize people who don’t? No. But “fortunate” not to serve your country? Sounds rather disturbing to me….

What is really disturbing is that someone who would ignore the attitudes , beliefs and points of views of everyone outside his own family and pals is then given the potential to kill on a vaste scale…

If someone doesnt see the “honour ” of being at the behest of a president who has done more to bring disrepute to that office , done more to endanger world peace ,brought discredit and infamy to a once proud nation and a honourable office…THEN FAIR PLAY TO HIM!!!!

We are not all ” HOORAHHHH ” robots marching to the tune of a disgraced and shambolic president who prob cant tie his own shoe laces without quidance…

and His latest admission of guilt??? NO LINK BETWEEN IRAQ AND 9/11….what more is to come??? maybe we will eventually hear what was going on with the mass exodus of the Bin Ladens from the US immediately AFTER 9/11….

Don’t be sorry that you started this thread. You really get to see who’s on who’s side.

ahhh right …so whos next on the strike list????

must be nearly every country in the world by now!!!

Justify the needless deaths of millions from car wrecks, plane crashes, crime, starvation, on the job fatalities, child abuse, disease, drug adiction, etc. There’s a ton of needless death around the world. Where’s your so called concern for them?

with few exceptions these issues are not intentional…and where they are a lot of them are due to lack of concern or downright profit/lobby motivated “ignorance on behalf of various governments .

I think you will find that most of teh rest of the world is more wooried and concerned about the “innocent ” victims of a war..including the poor bods sent out to die in the trenches!!

How many of the Bush/chaney gang of oil barons and financial high flyers have died in the fields of Iraq or Afganistan??