Is this another story about a body of water so there must be a plane at the bottom of it? Do you have any more details? Number? Date of loss? etc. etc. etc.

Ali

Unfortunatly my childhood was in a part of Ireland that at that time wasnt conducive to exploration or hunting down local folklore!!!! It is ,as previously advised ,a story that was going around but i do seem to remember it coming up again on a news /local affairs prog in the 80’s i think!

I am relatively inexperienced at this form of investigation,my only effort was many years ago when i heard ” stories” about a plane load of VIP’s crashing into a mountain range near the border . this ” story ” turned out to be relatively true in that AL 577 did crash and there were a lot of casualties..This was one bit of local legand that turned out to be more than local fairy tales!

As someone who has virtually no knowledge about how to for instance look up wartime crash reports, check for casulity lists etc I find this forum very educational but bow to those of you who have been at it a long time! keep up the good work!

Ooh – tell us more Hurrifan….

again its from my long distance childhood! But i remeber stories of a Spit down in the resevior .I think there was something on TV news back in the 80’s about a search for it…thats all i am afraid! will try some of the lads over here ..all the web searching has been inspirational !!!

Beware its a big and deep bit of water! 🙁

There is W6075 a Sunderland III 330 Sqn that ditched off Rams Island Loch Neagh 12 May 43. I have that accident report and movement card too. I also have the details of T2128 a Blenheim IV of 236 Sqn that Ditched on Lough Neagh 4mls SE of Randalstown 20 Sep 41 with the loss of the entire crew during torpedo training. The remains were recovered so it’s not a war grave but as the entire crew were killed it’s probably really banged up. Tiger Moth N9127 ditched in Lough Neagh 17 May 43. For a more modern touch there was an Avid Speedwing Mk 4 G-BUFV ditched in the Lough on 10th June 2005.

Ali 😎

Many thanks for the info .Did a bit more digging last night ,looks like it may be the Blenheim . Think dive was made by Army/Navy/Marines (?) sometime in the past 8/10 years and they found a twin but were unable to i/d type.When they returned to site unable to locate wreak again!

Wasnt the decision influenced by the rareity of the aircraft in that it was a gen bf109 and they didnt want to risk losing a veteran airacraft with a known combat history?

can i ask what your opinions are on the ” restoration ” of aircraft where all that might be used is for instance part of a spar.The result is then claimed as a genuine example using the original i/d.I am thinking in particular of a P51 from a number of years ago in the States where i seem to remember that the original had crashed and been totally destroyed .

Kenley dump.

Have come across a referall on another forum to a proposed excavation of the aircraft dump at Henley..Anyone know anything about this?

I guess also with a larger and more capable air arm the Irish Republic could also take part in international peacekeeping etc if they so wished.

???? Irish Defence forces not involved in Peace keeping?? Congo /Lebenon/Sinai/Cyprus/Somalia/Liberia/Bosnia/Kosovo/East timor…etc etc etc and this has been going on since the early 60’s..plus dozens of smaller detachments world wide as we speak.

Beggorah and begade sire……Seems the Irish spend more time sorting out the mess left by former colonists than we do getting Drunk in the pub!!!! isnt that right now RonOO…. LOL !

Visited IWMN last Saturday found it interesting but it isnt what i would describe as a museum as such.Its more of an opportunity to listen and learn about REAL life experiences ,to see how war and conflict effected the ordinary Joe/Josephine Soap .

Yes there are some historically interesting artifacts and displays but it isnt a Duxford or
even on the scale of the now displaced Ulster Aviation society museam (formerly at Langford lodge..hopefully somewhere else very very soon!!! )

So dont go there folks to see the metal rather listen to how War effects flesh and blood.

On a slightly different issue we also visited the Manchester science and industry museum and i was disappointed to note that many of the fine exibits there were coated in dust and dirt. Otherwise it is a fine display .