J-14 verses J-12 & 13
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http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs/11018441/20060328/13200134.html
No wonder I couldn’t find them when I was on visit.
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-28/1020487_516307692.htm
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I remembered from a very old magazine (nearly two decades old!) speculating about potential Chinese fighters and bombers. There was two variable geometry projects there one involving a Q-5 type airframe (Q-6?) and the other more similar to the JH-7.
It was known as “The Chinese Military Machine”.
There indeed was three designs. One design took after the likes of
the Mirage (that’s the cool one with rounded off deltas); one resembles a Mig-23
(this one sports a geometric swept wings); and the other is something like a Tornado
but with fixed wings. They were ambitious for their times those days.
Ask Deino about it. He have all the resources.
Distinctions: It’s the only Chinese fighter bomber that is nuke capable.
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Should we maybe tolerate a space exploration thread also
so as to take care of all the nay sayers or the challengers to the
theories of the landing of the Eagle and everything related?
I mean warfares; merciless killing tools such as missiles designed
to massacre en masse; and the deadiler and deadlier airplanes designed
to carry out these inhumane missions which is something practically everyone built
these days are is getting mighty old and it’s getting mighty boring…
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Interesting that the Q-5E is said to carry the targeting pod while the F carries the two LS-500J LGB’s……
Why not have one designation and in practice have one aircraft carry the pod while another carries the two bombs.
Of course self-designation is even better. Does the weight of the pod and two LGB’s not allow the Q-5 to take-off? Surely that’s not the case.
Seems like smaller LGB’s like those in the 250-kg class should be used for an aircraft like the Q-5. (i.e. as seen on Super Etendards with the GBU-12). A load of perhaps four LS-250J’s (?), two tanks, one designator, pod, and two AAM’s for self defense would be perfect.
Alternatively I guess two LS-500J’s, two smaller outboard tanks, and one targeting pod would work.
Anyone have theories on why two variants for this LGB delivery system?
Is the pod the same as the Blue Sky pod supposedly carried by the JH-7 and possibly J-10?
Why, you unpatriotic Islander you :p! Why embroil yourself in
the Q-5 when you don’t need to? I mean it’s not as if it’s going to cross
the TW Straight and fly staright into your home town you know – not when there’s something
that’s this dangerous sitting around your neck of the woods.
:p http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs2/11018521/20060321/13184516.html :p
So sleep tight my friend :p and don’t worry about the Q-5s.
Because, once CSB gets kicked out of office and MYJ takes over,
the two airfoces will likely buddy up with each other and diplomatic visits
between the two airforces will likely be the calls of the day.
So eat your heart out guys. TW is no push over :p !!!!
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Some claims (or speculations) here that this is in fact a Pakistani plant.
Compare hanger structural design of the two pics and decide for yourself.
Chinese buildings I agree seems to have different structural designs.
A job for those with a keen sense of structural differences.
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With all the commotions about foreign assitances, here
are what might have been the next generation of Q-5s. And, that belly intake?
It clearly have this almost J-10 genises to it doesn’t it?
三机部对这种新型飞机非常重视,并很快于1976年6月召集所属各部 设计人员
到北京,要求他们在最短的时间内提出设计方案。根据三机部下达的设计要求。沈阳飞机制造厂
和 南昌飞机制造厂很快提出了自己的方案,其中,南昌飞机制造厂提出强一6设计方案,沈阳飞 机 制
造 厂则提出了歼轰一8设计方案,西安飞机制造厂则稍后提出了“飞豹”设计方 案。
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/dljl/wqzl/11035918/20051128/12893762_1.html
(Toatal 2 pages)
沈飞的歼轰一8,就是歼一8的对地攻击改型。起先,三机部是
倾向于沈阳提出的歼轰一8方案的,但由于此时歼一8原型机尚未定型,该方案
在 实际运作中的风险系数过高,因此歼一8轰方案最终被否决。
强6是在米格一23MC的基础 (modeled after) 上发展而来的,当然
同样采用了悬臂式 单翼结构的可变后掠翼的布局,这种结构阻力小,稳定性好,适
合于飞机的 高速突防,并为对地攻击武器提供了一个理想的发射平台。
The Q-5 was nice, but the Q-6
would’ve been even nicer and the JH-7
(FBC) would’ve been better still…
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Of course, the above scenario
just provides a low cost alternative to PLAAF’s more ambitious
J10/Su27/J11 vs Mirage2000/F16 schemeMy 2 cents for a way how J7/J8 could Vs F16 :p
Well… I wasn’t refering to the Mirage-2000 when I said
“Mirage replicas“. We must understand that “a Breitling replica“, even
with all the fancy miniature dials in it, is not quite the same as the real thing because the
technology used in the manufactruring of it is not quite of the same standard
as that of other manufacturers, no matter the big claims.
Yes! It’s all about ambition…
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The J-7III sacrifice the primary virtue of the basic J-7, its agility in order to provide slightly better avionics, but it couldnt compete with the J-8 and is quite probably inferior to the J-7G.
It was said (or claimed) that the later versions was designed specifically
to compete with or handle Taiwan’s F-16s. Also claimed is that the one’s just
purchased by Bangeldash was sufficient enough to tackle Mirage replicas.
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Sorry, but that’s surly not a 4th nor a 5th generation fighter wind-tunnel model from Shenyang !
It’s a wt-mod. of the Swiss light-weight fighter project “Piranha” (take a look here: http://www.alr-aerospace.ch/Piranha.php)
Cheers, Deino 😀
At least I asked if it’s a prank.
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据中國時報報道,中國人民解放軍總裝備部科技委員會副主任汪致遠中將,不久前在十屆全
國人大四次會議期間語出驚人,對媒體宣稱中國將自行研製航空母艦。以汪的身分,公開談論此敏感
問題非常罕見。但西方軍事期刊並未跟進,使得消息在華人社會喧騰後落幕,動向尚待觀察。
:p Since Vulcanese is the norms of the day :p :
中國將自行研製航空母艦
Don’t miss this one. Blue prints (3 pages); relations above.
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs/11018441/20060322/13186026.html
Just in, and as always, the magical pages of China.com. Who knows however!
沈飞风洞中的4代机模型
(Shenyang 4th generation = 5th generation western wind tunnel speciment)
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-22/27595.htm
Again, from the mind teasing pages of China.com. Prank? Or what?
中国空军H-6轰炸机的弹舱
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs2/11018521/20060316/13174091.html
A sneak preview peep into the makings of the new H-6.
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Cool stuffs these 1/72 scales…
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http://military.china.com/zh_cn/head/83/20060321/13183532.html
Not bad looking at all if one dresses it up.
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-20/1020487_824702319.htm
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-20/1020487_824704244.htm
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-20/1020487_824702541.htm
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-20/1020487_824703227.htm
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-20/1020487_824704037.htm
http://bbs.military.china.com/jsp/pub/viewpicture.jsp?picurl=http://bbsimages.military.china.com/1013/2006/3/17/82.jpg
And they’re are still pumping them out like pancakes as it seem.
AWACs:
American System
http://bbsimages.military.china.com/1013/2006/3/15/13.jpg
(Source: China.com)
(Far Eastern System)
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/pic/2005-03-24/815841_679044345.jpg
(Source: China.com)
Both are equally Majestic.
Last but not least:
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-03-20/27484.htm
The most deadliest of system.
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Chatters and more chatters.
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs/11018441/20060320/13180528.html
http://bbs.military.china.com/jsp/pub/controler.do?event=VIEWMESSAGE&year=2006&month=3&forumid=1013&threadid=2014086&page=0
Latest speculations from Kanwa. Or so says these people.
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Let’s put it, simply, this way instead then: There’s always two sides to a story.
When someone says stuff like I FIGHT MY OWN FIGHTS…….it makes people wonder. A supposed citizen from a democratic country FIGHTING (at least that is the way this certain someone puts it) for commie dictators. Lol.
To me that says it all.
I have no hard feelings towards the oppressed citizens living inside or outside these dictatorships. It is the fact that such regimes still exist in todays modern world where progress in human resources is as important as material progress. I believe one should not get emotional when dealing with facts that are unfortunately very much true.
I am unaware of having made any reference to Americans in any of my posts. What Americans do is their business. The worlds largest democracy and the worlds most powerful democracy can live side by side and tolerate each other for such is the nature of democracy….it breeds tolerance. AND this is deviating from the subject, what have the Americans got to do with mentally conditioned pilots from commie dictatorships.
The truth my friend is sometimes bitter. As I have mentioned many times in my posts, forcing people to confirm and live according to the way chosen for them by their masters produces brainwashed people. Unfortunately, brainwashed people make brainwashed combat pilots, which in turn makes them cannon fodder similar to brainwashed foot soldiers.
Please do not take these thoughts as a personal attack.
Regards
I’m sorry to have to say this but: The one whose brain had been washed
is your very own. I suggest for you to take stock of what’s really wrong with it because if you
let it take over the better of you, it’ll it eat you up from the inside out. And those dictators that you
hated so much won’t even need to lift a finger if that’s how it works :p .
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When someone says stuff like I FIGHT MY OWN FIGHTS…….it makes people wonder. A supposed citizen from a democratic country FIGHTING (at least that is the way this certain someone puts it) for commie dictators. Lol.
To me that says it all.
I have no hard feelings towards the oppressed citizens living inside or outside these dictatorships. It is the fact that such regimes still exist in todays modern world where progress in human resources is as important as material progress. I believe one should not get emotional when dealing with facts that are unfortunately very much true.
I am unaware of having made any reference to Americans in any of my posts. What Americans do is their business. The worlds largest democracy and the worlds most powerful democracy can live side by side and tolerate each other for such is the nature of democracy….it breeds tolerance. AND this is deviating from the subject, what have the Americans got to do with mentally conditioned pilots from commie dictatorships.
The truth my friend is sometimes bitter. As I have mentioned many times in my posts, forcing people to confirm and live according to the way chosen for them by their masters produces brainwashed people. Unfortunately, brainwashed people make brainwashed combat pilots, which in turn makes them cannon fodder similar to brainwashed foot soldiers.
Please do not take these thoughts as a personal attack.
Regards
I’m sorry to have to say this but: The one whose brain had been washed
is your very own. I suggest for you to take stock of what’s really wrong with it because if you
let it take over the better of you, it’ll it eat you up from the inside out. And those dictators that you
hated so much won’t even need to lift a finger if that’s how it works :p .
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