-I have noticed in the last months that this forum is imho biased in favor of Russian and Chinese planes.-
It’s always been the other way round
That contradicts the reasons or charges as to why “ONCE QUALITY AFM MEMBERS” or
once frequent posters of the Key Board does not post here anymore. It’s because of how inferior Chinese products
are being sold or pushed, at raw jobber rate, here in this “EXCLUSIVELY” western community.
modest CG work and a poor PS finishing.
does this really deserve to be posted? :rolleyes:
if you must post it, then use the old JH7 thead that’s disappeared to the second or third page.
Yes indeed… What a waste of space 😉 😮 — this post.
Why is that the case ??
Ever consider these factors???
Previously, Chinese can be seen as a long shot, or as
the new kid on the block in the aviation scene and related technology, and ironically,
to date, they are the only ones coming out with surprises.
Examples: We all about know the awes of the F-14s, 15s, 16s, 18s, and the
F-22s, 35s, etc. But, items such as the j-10, the FC-1, the JH-7A, and more, are mostly
deemed wishy washy, rumors, speculations, and more. Until these products officially make their
debutes, they were no more but photoshopped works of arts and cheap toasters.
But, reality proved us all wrong didn’t it???
Sounds to me like the RoCAF would be an excellent prospect for them? 😀
Matter of factly, I would not be a bit surprised if RoCAF colours will one day
be painted on this A/C. After all, an eventual compromise between the two would open the
doors of opportunity for both the j-10 and the F-CK-1 to serve both air arms.
In fact, I envision both the RoCAF and PLAAF A/Cs to eventually
fly in tandam with each other in friendly terms and with mutual objects in
mind, or, maybe even adopt a colour agreeable to both parties.
Economics will dictate that that will be the case…
Probably done by a Taiwanese trying to stir up trouble. 😉
On another note:
Some speculations have indicated that it may even be
a CCTV news brief on something that’s brewing in the south asia region.
I will keep you posted if more comes up on this subject.
But, you know how reliable Chinese sources are: Zilch.
is there even a need for twin engined J-10 with J-11s and Su-30MKK incomming in so much numbers..lets not forget jh-7b…I dont see any point..?(i think they’re different)
Speculations abound…
Dual engined J-10s have been rumored “a top priority” for the long
planned and expected indiginous Chinese carrier project. J-10 preferences are said to
supercede even those of the Su-27/30s with the Chinese carrier project.
But, who knows. Because, as Arthur
have proved 😀 : This CCTV thingy can indeed be no
more but simply a Rafale in the making.
Anyhow, as it seems here, those darn
Chinese are trying to fool the world with their photoshopped works
of art again. Pathetic! Simply pathetic!!!
I always said: Them there Chinese are up to “NO GOOD”, haven’t I???
Here’s another of their BS photoshopped works of art:
http://bbs.china.com/images/2004-05-20/1085046127C3.jpg
Now, they are trying to pass the B-1
around as a chip off of the old H-6 block. I mean don’t
these people ever give up 😀 ???!!!!
Photo taken about 45min later …
My 2 cents on this old pic:
Originally, and most likely, someone’s (some Taiwanese most likely) idea, a joke, or a prank
being played on the Chinese masses or on Chinese aviation enthusiasts of the Chinese aviation industry.
Chinese themselves won’t go the silly route. They have no need to do so, my opinion.
However, things have a tendency of getting out of control.
just a metal model. not big deal
I agree… And, it’s but only the first of many many
steps to becoming a real & marketable end user friendly product.
And yes, the Rafale’s OK too my opinion if it can be had.
Damn the French for airing
their Rafale on CCTV. Or, has CCTV all of a suddent turned
“National Enquieror” on us???
The last pic that I saw of the J-13 ??? looked terrible like a MiG 1.42. One differnt thing: What would have both J-10 single and double seater have in common if the configuration would be that much ‘influenced’ by the Rafale ? Would it make any sense to speak any longer of the J-10 ? Maybe that’s all only disinformation. Commies like to do such thinks … 😎
Commies??? :rolleyes: Hmmm… When will
people ever get over that Marx/Stalin psyche/phobia??? Man…
I thought this is the 21st century…
The first and second pic looks like a Rafale. :confused:
Cold be! Cos you never know with these Chinese.
Heck! It could even be a photoshopped job as is with the case of most
Chinese releases. Or so goes the charge anyhow.
atleast Erez will be happy it isnt similar to Lavi 😉
Single tailed… Takes after concept of EF-2000.
Until the XXJ concept comes out, I don’t think we’ll be seeing
any double tailed designs from these people as double tailed fighters are likely not within the ideals
of what’s “deemed a neccessity” of many world A/C designers.
Cool nonetheless, if this wind tunnel model is really the A/C it’s claimed to be…
Is it just me or has this whole forum gone China mad? Even in the navy thread it’s China this and China that, give it a rest guys seriously, no wonder all the good guys left!
Ja, Mate…
As you can see, I don’t dwell on the subject
or subjects. I merely make brief repeats of what’s already on the net. Therefore
the term “give it a rest” shouldn’t apply to me.
After all, how else is the world going to know the goings ons of what’s
happening in the East??? Besides, strangely enough, Chinese items have decreased
substantially ever since the upgrade of this forum if you’ve not noticed.
Additionally, let’s be honest: I think many have left (if such is indeed the case)
is due mainly to the fact that they are facing stiff competition from Chinese posters
who now frequents this site. It has nothing to do with the subjects posted.
In other words: They don’t
have anyone to bash anymore and that
took the fun out of everything…
My opinions only of course.
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I think that the arms market will be divided in two sections. The rich with the expensive and high tech tools and the modest and poor with the less expensice tools. The western aircraft like Mirage 2000, Rafale, Ef2000, Gripen and T50 are not very much an option for african and asian nations. That is why planes like Fc1 or maybe LCA will definately see some options to become successes. We here tend to compare the F22 with the Fc1… Sure there are huge differences but if we start looking at the market then we ought to understand that there are more poor nations then rich ones… One doesn’t replace an african outdated mig with a Gripen or F35…
Sounds here as if someone is catching on “FAST” and getting smarter by the click 😀 . I mean what’s wrong with giving others a bit of face-saving room when substance and not unproven claims is all that matters anyhow??? Definitely a thumbs up and a compliment from me on this one — not criticism!!!
Influential source of the J-7mf my opinion.
When our Illustrious Mods do get their powers, they might consider eliminating that “LCA vs FC-1” flamebait that Hamburger dug up from the crypt in another one of his endless attempts to get attention and be “cute.”
That thread was last replied to in January, 2002, before he dug it up :rolleyes:
Now, it’s my turn to be on the offensive:
They should eliminate “ALL” FC-1 threads, even the
thousand click ones, because it’s so damn controversial. the FC-1
need not be bragged about and pumped the way it does here in AFM. It
can hold its own because substance, not arguments and cheering,
are the things that determines the worth of a real product.
😀 :confused: 😮 😮 🙁 😡 🙂 :rolleyes: 😎 :p 😉