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  • in reply to: Smoking jets #1197683
    Trilex9
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    Well ok, it seems to be using both, so…

    in reply to: Smoking jets #1198446
    Trilex9
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    Yea, cheating, the initial criteria in this thread was no water injection.
    You can’t compare engines, while using water injection (not all have that). I mean regular operation.

    in reply to: Smoking jets #1198925
    Trilex9
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    Thank you all for very interesting responses, I really enjoy reading all of this, so many good stories.
    Keep it coming.

    Here is a sub-question, to this topic:
    The smokers, do they smell differently than a regular jet?

    I imagine in my head the difference between a good diesel engine exhaust and one that leaks oil into the cylinder and has bad combustion too. The first one smells sweet-ish, as if something eatable is cooking, while the second one is a bit heavier and suffocating.
    Is the same different present in clean vs. dirty jets? How do smokers smell?

    in reply to: 707 vs. DC-8 noise #512433
    Trilex9
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    Sorry I hadn’t replied soon, I saw your reply just now

    Well, thanks, that’s what I wanted to know, and what I suspected also.

    I love the buzzsaw sound as you call it. I haven’t heard any other engine make it just like that. Later came engines with larger fans, which make a different kind of buzz, deeper, nothing like 707.

    Here is a couple of clips with some classic 707 buzz:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0R12VE2SOs&feature=user
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4CelCa7uMQ&feature=related

    in reply to: Air starts #513107
    Trilex9
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    Well I did a little more research on this subject, and I find it quite interesting…

    The sound in the clip is indeed probably a diesel unit, the whine seems to be characteristic of such devices as screw or vane pumps. It kind of reminds of root blower sound.
    But there is very little info on such devices.

    I wish there was more interest on aviation history on WWW.

    in reply to: Air starts #513281
    Trilex9
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    So, this whine we hear in the clip, is that from one of those diesel+compressor units or gas turbine units?

    in reply to: Air starts #513293
    Trilex9
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    Now that I’ve watched it with what you said in my mind, I see it makes sense. At 1.18 the whine “struggles” a bit, which would indicated that this is the point when the air cart is first loaded by the resistance of the actual engine of the DC8

    About that whine from the ASU, then….what kind of engine would make that kind of whine? Doesn’t sound like a regular jet engine at high rpm. Is that some kind of alternative kind of compressor or what?

    Is there a specific popular brand (any names to remember?) of ASU’s back in the days of 707 and DC8 that most airports used or were those custom solutions by every airport?

    in reply to: Air starts #513530
    Trilex9
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    Thanks everyone for their answers…

    What about the sound in that clip, the whine, is that what a huffer cart sounds like, or is the low-rpm N1 sound?

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