Is the Lincoln set up not similar?
John
Hello Michael,
This is another of those famous aeroplanes, of which there is so little around. To compound this, there are nebulous comments by well regarded authors and to which published dimensions don’t seem to physically add up on photographic interpretation. and what meager drawings are around. Trying to find something official is not easy. My main problem is trying to find out exactly where the fuselage of the DH 50.A was longer than the DH 50. Puma versions.
John
Adrian’s explanation neatly ties up the Orioles and the Curtiss Cox Wildcat triplane racer in the background. I’m still not sure of the small type in the third photo.
John
I often come across comments in similar discussions to this thread, such as “I no longer buy magazines/books etc, because I can get everything off the internet.”. This is all very well taking this parsimonious view, but who puts the information up on the web in the first place. The answer is of course, besides official organizations, folk who have bought books and magazines to stock their own libraries and who are willing to scan and share their accumulated reference information. Digital is totally dependent on Paper sources and so it will be for a long time.
John
I certainly can’t throw any light on this except to make the observation that (I think) all but the first (Curtiss F6c Hawk), had some type of retracting under carriage so Williams would have been used to this vital operation on the previous Grumman’s, all be it of the wind up type. Again the stress of landing a new hotter type could set up a mistake.
John
It could well have been the Djinn as I couldn’t quite recall whether it was that or a Kolibri. Also the event I saw the S.55 at could well have been Cranfield as I was a regular attender at the P.F.A’s in those days.
John
When I was stationed at RAF Coningsby in the late 1970’s I was a regular visitor to Roger Windley’s scrap yard, as I was building a Triumph based sports car and the yard and helpful and obliging staff provided much of what I needed. Mr Windley had a number of helicopters under covered storage including a small Dutch agricultural type. I seem to remember a small adjacent airstrip. I do remember one of the S.55’s appearing at Old Warden once, possibly in the 80’s.
The Lockerbie tragedy was a horrible event. But now the quiet storage in rural Lincolnshire of (possibly) secondary wreckage has been sensationalized by a cretinous British newspaper for no other purpose than to sell it’s rag with “sensational Aerial photographs”.
May the victims rest in peace, because sadly we will be seeing no truth or justice coming out of Libya for a long time to come, Nor the Daily Wail.
John
The Finnish Gauntlet has not yet been to the UK. The engine unit and prop are ex Pembroke of which the Finns had a small number. A Saab B.17 has appeared at Legends.
John
My first thought was Proctor, but looking at the illustration in the repair manual, it’s too wide and is not deep enough. and the filler is on the top side on the Percival s
John.
Ah yes they probably had the Cataract or Niagara engines. It would be interesting to know if it surfaced anywhere near Hooton where Pobjoy Air Motors were.
John
The most common and most numerous type for this prop to have come off is the Monospar. The ST,4, ST.6, ST.10 and ST.11 were commonly fitted with the fine pitch four blade props.
John
The truth is that the later types were basically scaled down from developments of the DH 4 and 9, via the DH 51. The structures, curves, wing sections and radii all followed the same thinking. Due to the Air Ministry’s specifications the ghost of the DH.9 lived on through the Westland Walrus, Wapiti and the Wallace and a few ‘might have beens’.
John
British Nieuport just to be correct. Harry is a diminutive of Henry and that was from the Putnam 🙂
It was designed by Harry Folland. I believe that the Mars 1 got the nickname Bamel after some wag said it looked as if a Bear was riding a Camel.
John
In the Southwest, RAF Locking started as a major aircraft trade training station in 1939. Perhaps it went there as an instructional airframe?
John