That is a truely amazing result and an excellent way to witness aircraft that don’t exist anymore, well done.
It has taken me that long to build plastic kits!
Yes, a fantastic effort. I have the urge to now to produce a kit of a Giant Moth. hmm.
Cheers
John
Hi John
Quite a resemblance!I wonder about those smallish, round, finless rudders.
They appeared on the Avro 504, Fokker Eindecker, lots of Neiuports and a host of other aircraft. I wonder if they suffered much from yaw instability.regards
GeoffR
More than a resemblence, the first Martlet was said to have used some Baby parts. As for the yaw I agree, but perhaps someone more erudite might discuss.
John
yes and the lengthened nose must have made that worse.
I imagine a decent fin would improve the Baby’s handling, but then it wouldn’t be an Avro Baby any more.
GeoffR
But then it would become a Miles Martlet 🙂
John
Thanks John. The only reference I could find to G-EAQC was on these two websites:-
http://www.orpheusweb.co.uk/vicsmith/Accidents/Nov21.html
http://www.goldenyears.ukf.net/reg_G-E1.htmThe second website says the reg was cancelled on 06.11.21, tying in with the accident listed on the first site. Interestingly, on the second website, is mention of G-EAOE, an Avro 504K which crashed at Cleethorpes on 12.06.22.
Was there ever an airfield at Cleethorpes, and did it use the beach? It could have been RFC or maybe a Naval Air Station. I seem to recall seeing it listed on a website somewhere… will have another look when I’ve got more time.
Dean.
The Joy riders would simply operate from the beach in between tides and have an overnight base in a farmers field. G-EAQC was owned by B Martin of Nottingham. There is a much better photo in the Jackson book.
John
Thanks for that John, I’m not up on the older ones. I did a spot of Googling, found some DH.6 pics, and I concur.
Where did you find the information on G-EAQC being at Cleethorpes though? – I’m intrigued.
Dean.
A.J.Jacksons British Civil Aircraft Vol two (Putnams) of the three volume edition in the appendix DH.6 regisrations.
Cheers
John
Can anybody help with any info and particularly photos of the Swift Flight please?
All I can find out so far is from http://www.bywat.co.uk/wj576.html :
This special flight was set up in 1960 at El Adem to investigate the effects of high-speed low-altitude flying on aircraft structures and the aircrew. The Flight provided data for use in the TSR.2 programme as well as giving general details about such flight profiles. Swifter Flight aircraft all had white painted centre and forward fuselages and carried a “Swift” emblem on the fin.
I have the log of a navigator who flew some ‘joy rides’ with the flight (in WH648) but haven’t been able to track down photo’s of flight aircraft.
Any pointers appreciated.
I seem to recall that it’s covered in the Delve book on the Canberra. Unfortunately mine is in storage at present.
John
Not an Auster but this pic appeared in tonight’s Grimsby Telegraph. The caption next to it reads “An aeroplane on the sands, at Cleethorpes seafront, year unknown.”
Can anybody identify the type and give a year?
Dean.
It’s a DH.6 (Clutching Hand) probably G-EAQC which was at Cleethorpes in 1920.
John
Could anybody perhaps ID the transport fuselage section sitting between the Mig 15/17 Type UTI and the Mig 9?
I don’t think its a lump from a Peking No1 .
Not a Mig 9 but I think an IL10. The mystery fuselage has a slope to the lower edge of the cockpit glazing and the cabin windows both appear similar to that of Peking No 1.
John
Other than four main wheels I can’t imagine there were any…the whole layout and method of retraction are completely different.
With regard to the Stirling…it was probably about three times as complicated as it needed to be! 😀
The Stirling aquired it’s ungainly height in an odd way. It was discovered at an early stage that the wing incidence needed changing and affected take-off, and as re-design and engineering was a massive task the undercarriage was lengthened as a compromise.
John
Of course they are – my apologies. You can see the resemblance though can’t you?!
Hat, coat, taxi waiting!!!
😉
They are “D”‘s No guns and Denmark had the F.86.D
John

Hello all,
This is my first post, so lets hope it works.
I’ve been recently working on a project of to detail the operational histories of US Cold War-era fighter jets, including the F-84 Thunderjet/Thunderstreak series. I’m trying to match up operational histories with serial numbers, which is not as easy as it sounds!Information on these old jets is brutally hard to find, especially unit histories, crashes, combat losses, scrappings, that sort of thing, more than just the s/n. In particular, I have little on the West German F-84Fs except serial numbers, though I know about 36% crashed. Also for the Italian, Greek, Turkish and even the French F-84s, I can’t find any place where there is a list of what serial numbers crashed where and when, and what happened to them after they were retired, what USAF units they came from, how they were disposed of, that sort of thing.
Perhaps someone here could assist me, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Nate
These Thunderjets were parked as decoys in the 70’s at RDAF Vandel, all the serials were over painted.
John

1A: Spitfire, Battle
1B1: Spitfire, Hurricane, Fulmar, Wellington, Whitley, Defiant, Battle, Henley
1B2: Spitfire, Hurricane, Wellington
1C: Halifax
1D: Beaufighter IIF
1E1: Lancaster and derivatives, Beaufighter IIF
1E2: Spitfire Mk VIII and IX
1F: Mosquito, Lincoln, Casa III (with no1 and 6 outlets deleted)Anyone think of any more?
Pete
1D Barrcuda.
1F Sea Hornet. (less outlets)
John
Thanxx,Now what is the third plane?
It’s a Consolidated NY-2 (Fleet). They were used on both wheels and floats. The remaining type is a Douglas B.18.
Sikorsky Guardian.
B.18.
NY-2.
NY-2
I have 4 photos,the last two seems to be the same type.like Crutiss N-9,but the tail is not very similer.
I know that the second is DC B-18 bomber.
And What is the first plane?
All three seemed built in 1920s.Isn’t it?
Thank you!
The first one is a Sikorsky Guardian 1928 100ft span Pratt and Whinger Hornets. as rare as rocking horse pooh.
John
I have 4 photos,the last two seems to be the same type.like Crutiss N-9,but the tail is not very similer.
I know that the second is DC B-18 bomber.
And What is the first plane?
All three seemed built in 1920s.Isn’t it?
Thank you!
The first appears to be one of the Huff Dalland /Keystone types and the two single engined types are Consolidated NY-2’s
John