RAF Sealand’s Morris Ambulance
Just thought I would add this for general interest, it’s the “Blood wagon” at RAF Sealand in the early thirties. The only other Siskin pics I have at Sealand are 41 Sqn and a very damaged neg of a Siskin being started with a Hucks starter, the rest are a wide coverage as Sealand was the RAF packing depot for aircraft going overseas as well as training units. Please note that these pictures are John Adams collection and have never been published.
John

Siskin crash
I have a number of photos taken at RAF Sealand by a Medic assistant in the early 1930’s and amongst these is a Siskin crash. This is probably not “your” Siskin (as I,m sure it’s a single seater) and may have been one of the few photos he took at Cranwell. I do remember my informant did say this was also a fatal. But if gives some idea of the awfullness of such a crash.
John

Light Stores Carriers
I work on Mk 1Vs in 1944, & never saw any ref. on the drawings for modifications to fit bomb racks, — in 1943 the allied air forces were overflowing with bomber A/C. of all shapes, & sizes, capable of carrying large bomb loads, so what would be the point of adapting a tiny little Proctor 1V to carry a 500lb bomb, — with a bomb that size what purpose would it have served ?— it would be very lucky if it reached the French coast.
Some Light training A/C (prior to the Mk 1V.), were provisionally fitted with racks when the threat of invasion hung over Britain prior to ‘The Battle of Britain’, (1940) but the idea was soon put aside as the invasion threat passed, — the Proto-type Mk 1V (LA 589) flew (long after the threat had passed), in 1942/3. & came into service some afterwards.Dustyone
Clearly the heading picture is fitted with a light carrier of some type. Where did the suggestion 500lb bombs and France come from? I would think the heaviest load would be anti-personel bombs or perhaps Sea Markers or Smoke bombs for training purposes rather than an attempt to sink the Bismark 🙂
John
Again I suggest the heading photo is one of the prototype Mk IV’s fitted with a test bomb rack. Another clue is in the caption, it calls it the T9/41 which is the spec for the original Mk IV design. The Proctor 1 was T20/38.
It is possibly LA586 or LA589, one of the two Mk.IV prototypes and the reference to Royal Navy being nothing more that they were one of the sponsors to the Spec for the MkIV.
John
A photo would make life easier, but as a right hand (tractor?) airscrew it sound like it might be off a rotary engine as most British inter war engines are left handers eg the Armstrong Siddeleys.
John
Potez 29 and 25 TOE
Ok, I’ll stick my neck out and say that I think the one on the left is a Potez 29 Sanitaire (White with Red crosses) and the others are standard Potez 25 TOE in Khaki.
John
There was one test fuselage (never flown) made out of a Bakelite type composite called Aerolite.
John
Hi John,
The RNZAF Pilots Notes for the T Mk.13 AP4326N dated March 1961 (Pre amendment 1) gives the crew as having three ejection seats.
Pupil Mk3 CT1
Instructor Mk3 CT2
Navigator Mk3 CSTDoes your sketch pre date or post date the March 1961 date?
Regards
Ross
Hello Ross
Unfortunately I don’t have a date for the AP sketch but it did come from a South African AP.
I am certain it must pre-date the EJ fits.
Here is part of an article on Canberras I did concerning Crew entry for the T.4
John
Crew access to the T.4. A pantomime in several acts.
The ground crewman unlocks the base of the second pilots seat and swings it forwards so with no-one in the seat, it locks against the panel. (The top of the seat is hinged from a tubular beam so it swings in an arc). The normal first pilots seat is also attached to this beam on the port (Left) side but it has been moved further over to port
The Nav crawls past into the back and straps in.
The second seat is then swung completely further aft and locked at a steep angle so the way is clear for access to the port seat from the entrance door.
The first pilot climbs in past the stbd seat and straps in.
The second pilot now climbs in and straps into the aft angled seat, with his feet braced against the rudderbar plinth.
At a signal from him, the ground crewman now moves the seat back to it’s central base locking position, and all three crew are now in position and the crew side door can be closed.
At this point the Nav decides he does need a pee after all……..
Sanitaire?
Are you sure the Potez 25 on the left has “German” crosses and could it be the Sanitaire (ambulance version) with a cabin and white with Red crosses?
John
This is incredible, Clare and I spent the preceding week to Easter at Blakeney in Norfolk. Whilst having our “after sailing” breakfast at the open air cafe I got into conversation with an elderly gentleman which started with him looking at contrails and remarking “I’m glad to see they are earning my pension”.
We introduced ourselves and it turned out it was Mike Russel. We then enjoyed a long conversation about Aeromodeller (which his father started) and Moths and Rapides and Humming Birds et al.
Rest in Peace.
John
T.13 seats
Please, please, scan it and post it here!
Here is the illustration of the criminal T.13 seats. (shades of the B(I).8 and V bomber rear crew). It would appear that the Nav still went bang!
The drawings are now a long term project as I am updating the ones I used for my 1;48 scale kit with a view to eventual publication. I have just finished the main outline for the PR.9.
John

T.13 seats
I have an AP illustration of the non ejection seats fitted to some export T.13’s
NZ, Aus and South Africa were some of the recipients.
It is an odd “A” frame device which supports a conventional seat and is attached at the top to the tubular cross beam to which the ejection seats normally fit.
John
Canberra dimensions
I am currently measuring Canberras with reference to producing some accurate drawings for model purposes as all the published drawings contain some errors. The following might be of some help.
For some reason Canberra overall length is not measured over the pitot head,therefore a B.6 at 65’6″ becomes 66′ 3″ in true overall length.
Length T.19, 69′ 8″
Length, T.17 67′ 3″.
These were obtained with plumbed verticals and may have a tiny margin of tape error (ie < 1″).
Beware that some AP information is erroneous as the Vol one for the PR.9 gives the tailplane root (projected) chord as 12′, it is not, it is 10′.
Also I note in the list posted that the PR.9 wingspan is given as 69′ 5″. It is 67′ 10.5″ or I believe later at 67′ 11.5″.
I worked on 2’s, 3’s 4’s, 6’s, 7’s, and 9’s.
John
Memories. My father worked on Lancaster production in those sheds at Chadderton and I was born near there.
John
Creaking door….
It was the name Creaking Door that reminded me of my one encounter with the Hastings T5. That was sitting in the pax seats next to the door on a flight to Ballykelly and being fascinated by, the amount the gap around the door, varied from interesting to frightning!
Cheers
John