That may be orthochrome film in which case the dark areas are actually trainer yellow. Pre-war Magisters were in a similar yellow/aluminium finish. Equally if the areas are red primer then orthochrome would also render them dark.

I suspect you’ll have to find other pics.

The propeller tip (Yellow) is different.

John

I thought that the Sabres fitted with the MB Mk. 5 seats also had to have a canopy mod which enabled the canopy to rise as it moved back. You can see this on photos of Pakistani AF (the ex Luftwaffe ones) Sabres.

There is a picture on Hyperscale, search for “Luftwaffe Sabres and MB seat”

John

Can anyone identify these two aircraft demonstrated to the turkish army in the late twenties or early thirties?

It is a Letov, a variant of the S31, probably the S’131 which was demonstrated throughout the Balkan states and probably Turkey. I go with JDK that the second a/c is a Potez 29 (developed from the 25).

Cheers

John

Thankyou John and others.
John, by cross-axle undercarriage, do you mean that this is accurate;

http://www.cct.u-net.com/c:%5CHACHomepage/Images/G-AAAH%20newmod1.gif

Am I right in assuming that the control cables for the ailerons are inside the lower wing?

Thanks for the interest.
Given the achievement of Amy Johnson and how she was feted at the time as a regular pin-up girl of the age, it’s a shame that her aircraft isn’t better covered by the kit manufacturers. Frog did a great series of “Trailblazers”, including, for example, Alcock & Brown’s Vimy, Southern Cross, Lindberg’s Spirit of St.Louis and, of course, “Jason”.

Given the non-militaristic nature of these subjects, I would’ve thought there’d be a market now, to update the old Frogs with modern standard kits.

Regards,
Bruce

Regards,
Bruce

Yes, that is the axle I was refering too not the type common on the 60X and some 60G’s. Jason was damaged in Australia and repaired to a static condition for display and so Amy went on tour in other Moths. Sometime later Jason was reconfigured to it’s two seat guise. The aileron cables are inside the wing but there is an external pushrod leading from the bellcrank to the aileron horn as visible on James’s photo. I am actually working on a 1:48 DH60 Moth at the moment.

Cheers

John

Hello…I’m the ‘mate’ Greg was referring to and thought it’d be more polite to enter discourse directly, as it were!

Thanks for the many and useful responses.

I’d been partially confused by the inaccurate artwork on the Frog kit I’m going to be playing with, which shows a long exhaust,running along the fuselage port side.
The image showing the spare prop suggests that “Jason” did not have this. The covered front cockpit was also useful to see, as it saves me having to detail the interior.:o
(I’ve ordered some DH props from Aeroclub, so I can strap a spare in place).

From your help, I’ve also deduced the arrangement for the elevator and rudder controls.

What I’m still struggling with, is the arrangement of the control cables for the ailerons. Whilst I can see the underwing arrangement, I’m yet to see the control cables above the surface of the lower wing. Did the cable run down the forward, outer strut?

On the point of rearward angled struts, leading from the cowling to the tops of the cabane struts, I’ve seen Gipsy Moths with these and without them. I’m 99% sure “Jason” had them. In pictures, they could almost be rigging cables…are they, or are they really fine struts?

Thanks again for your interest.

Regards,
Bruce

Jason, by the way when Wally Hope owned it, it was red and silver .

Jason had the front cockpit faired over, a cross axle u/c and it carried the spare prop. There is a photo on page 131 of the DH 60 Moth (S McKay).

All DH 60 Moths were fitted with the inverted Vee front cabane struts.

Cheers

John

Yes, It documents No 1 Sqn in France. Frankenburgers MG 15 gun is still with the Sqn.

John

It’s a Travelair Mysteryship replica.

Cheers

John