Yes and a Stinson Reliant landing in the background at one point.

John

Just to confirm that it’s not off a Breda 25 as it’s prop diameter is 252 cm. I’d forgotten that I have copies of the engineering notes for this aeroplane.

John

I believe that it might be this one. The original was a poor small contact print which was amongst a number of photos I bought a little while ago. Another photo was of a Hamilcar which was at Farnborough.

John

Well if I’m reading the data right it was originally 244 cm dia (seven and a bit feet) and it’s off a 200 CV powered engine yet it appears to be British rotation. (Lynx Avro?) I wonder if it’s something to do with 6 Sqn who disbanded at Coltishall and who spent much of their service in the middle east. Though some of the bases don’t match.

John

One difference between the Lockheed 14 and some of the other examples mooted here is that it was a successful and useful aeroplane before it was militarized and the others were designed from the outset as “fighting machines” all of which splendidly failed to achieve that goal.

John

Ventura’s as well as Hudson’s and the Halifax used the BP C. 2 type turret. The BP type C.1 from which the C.2 evolved was basically the front half of the Hudson turret and was the nose turret of the Halifax B.II. a large number were also mounted on wheels as Turret trainers at gunnery schools. As an over water GR type the BP turret gave the gunner of the Hudson an very useful arc of vision.

John

It might also be a Genet II as the II and IIa were essentially the same as the Genet 1 (65 hp) with the vertical cylinder uppermost, but were more powerful, (80 hp) by having a raised compression ratio.
To add to this list. The Genet II and IIa powered a number of production types such as the Robinson Redwing, DH 60 Moth, Bluebird II and III, Avro Avian II, Westland Widgeon III as well as the earlier II.and some one off’s such as Klemm L.25, and Parnall Imp and the Anec IV Missel Thrush. The Missel Thrush crashed in Peebleshire during the 1928 Kings Cup. A wheel still exists, could this be another relic of the mountain. The sole British registered Monocoupe 60 had a Genet II and was scrapped at Gatwick in 1947.

With little else to go on but the internals, the key to anything else would be to trace it’s sales path. Do you know who the Vendor (you obtained it off) is and if so try to elicit where he got it.

John

I still think it’s a Genet 1 crank and rods. The stamped words confirm that it’s probably British. If you can measure the throw of the crank from the centre of the prop shaft to the centre of the Master rod gudgeon pin, then this will give us a bit more info. The Genet 1 had a 4″ stroke and the Major was 4.5″ and I think the Mongoose was 5.5″.

John