Spitfire for Anna
Nice shots.
Thanks, Anna. Checked out your blog – you’ve got some nice shots posted there yourself. A gal who loves airplanes can’t be all bad! And wasn’t there a photo of you strapping on a parachute?
Since you mentioned that the Spitfire is your favorite airplane, here are some shots of a Canadian Spitfire just for you. Taken at CFB Trenton last Canada Day weekend.
Alex
One Last Batch
One last group … a few of the photos posted in this thread were taken at CFB Trenton on the July 5/6th airshow weekend and the others at Oshkosh at the end of July/early August…
More First Try Images
Thanks for the encouragement! I’m only beginning to take photography seriously, and beginning to learn how to use a new camera, so please feel free to comment.
I’m discovering that there is a huge learning curve and I’m not quite at the stage where I can tell the difference between an image that’s a bit underexposed and one that’s slightly overexposed, so once again, any criticism is appreciated.
Here are a few more. This was not one of the bright, sunny days at Oshkosh, but a dull, overcast, half-assed, drizzly one. (The sun was out the day the picture of the Canadian Lysander was taken.)
The one of the C-5 sitting on the ramp was taken with the point-n-shoot CoolPix which, in a frustrating manner, is often able to take better pictures than the big camera. Part of the learning curve?
More Yellow – But Don’t Forget The SAR Guys
More yellow – including the SAR guys who, on Sunday, had to go out on a real SAR mission searching for a man/woman overboard out in the Lake.
VWoC
Hi folks: I was there on Sat when the gates opened.
VWoC props must have been Sun. 😀
Yes, the heavy metal propjobs were Sunday. The flyby was not part of the show but was performed when they (Spit, Mustang & Corsair) took off and headed for home after the show, followed by the Snowbirds, at around 1715. Only the folks who hung around got to see them.
It’s not too often that a Spitfire and P-51 are in the air together, never mind being led by an F4U !! Nice sight to see.
More Hawk One
Two more …
More CFB Trenton – The Heavy Iron
How could we forget the Lancaster?
Then there’s the little guy, the CC-117… and our Maple Leaf flag.
The E-Type
No, I think you’re safe there….Malcolm Sayer is credited as the designer of the E-Type. He was English as was the firm he worked for.
Now the other auto design icon, the Mini was designed by Alex Issigonis “was born into the Greek community of Smyrna (now İzmir) in the Ottoman Empire”*…but was an English subject.
So that could prove troublesome to those who might take “British” too literally.*From Wikipedia.
But other ideas…
The Rolls Royce Silver Ghost
Any Lotus
Nope, there’s absolutely no doubt that the E-Type was English.
I have fond memories of picking up my roadster ( I really wanted a coupe but the roadster was five hundred bucks cheaper) at the factory and driving back to base in Germany. It was both exhilarating and frustrating because the factory recommended break-in rpm limited my top speed to around 100 klicks on roads where speed was unlimited.
But as I said, there is no doubt that the E-Type is/was English. Typically English, the car would pop its trunk wide open at every bump in the road. Typically English, the car’s engine would quit running every time you drove in the rain. Typically English, the car required a clutch replacement after only a couple of thousand miles. Oh, the top once popped open at 130mph, and lastly, it’s gotta be English to have Lucas electrics.
Ah, but she was beautiful and seductive! Wasn’t it Road & Track that called the XK-E the greatest crumpet collector known to man?
Concorde
It seems fair to feature Concorde to me. Even if you just take the British design, build, and political elements, these exceeded the efforts on other solely British projects of the time, and was based on an existing paper study within BAC. As said above it is also hugely recognisable by the public.
Not sure what the French think though!
The French think the Brits stole the design from the Russians. :)-
Vampire or Venom Drawings
out of curiosity, are the Vampire or Venom factory drawings available?
Replicas
So what does a full size model teach that a large plastic kit cannot?
I wouldn’t want to see a Spitfire or Hurricane at our Museum, as it is not appropriate.
On a personal level – and it is just that, I am not a fan of such replicas; they have nothing to teach the future generation, except for the manner in which it was interpreted by the builder.
I’ll clarify that sweeping statement….! What I am saying is that I’m not a fan of replicas that deviate from the original manner of construction in any way. The original artefacts we leave behind are as important a way of learning history as any document.
Bruce
That brings up an interesting issue, Bruce.
In most large museums such as NASM Downtown and Hazy, the exhibits are roped off from the public, affording little or no access. Basically, you can’t get near the ones on the ground, and it would take a Tarzan or Cheetah to reach the ones hanging in the air like the P-51A. For all the difference it makes, all the aircraft in the museum might as well be replicas. Who would know the difference?
Yes, there’s limited access for historians and there are the archives, but for the aircraft on display that are viewed daily by the public (and I believe that NASM is the most visited museum in the United States) what difference would it really make if they were replicas and not the real McCoy? The engines are pickled, the hydraulics drained. They don’t taxi. They don’t fly. They just sit there, or hang there. Even the scruffy-looking, black P-61 just squats there in a dark corner of the hall. Hhmmm …. imagine a wax museum of aircraft. :)- Madame Whatshername’s.
Another museum I visited recently was the Champlain Museum near the Grand Canyon. My interest was the Me-109G on display. The curator was extremely kind to allow me full access for photography so I was able to check out the 109 up close. My main interest at the time was the rudder and its method of construction. To be honest with you, after checking it out up close, I couldn’t tell whether it was of wood construction or metal with fabric. Or whether it was a “real” rudder. There were obvious fabric tapes but no visible indication of cord stitching. It could have been a wood rudder, but for all I know, it could also very well have been a replica rudder that wasn’t all that faithfully reproduced.
So maybe I should eat my words about suggesting flying replicas, eh?
Somebody else on this thread asked why not a replica other than a Spitfire. Yes, why not? Why not a Westland Whirlwind? It’s surely one of the prettier fighters produced by the Brits in WW2 and there ain’t any in existence ….. and as pretty as the Hornet is, my personal opinion is that the Whirlwind is prettier. It really is unique! Wish I had the original drawings and the funding to build a flying Whirlwind replica! You’d probably need a bunch of fake cannons to ballast the nose, but what a fun airplane it would be!
Alex
Vampire/Venom
Excellent pictures.
WL498 was a Vampire FB9
Bruce
Thanks, Bruce.
This aircraft had previously been ID’d on this forum as a Venom.
After 50 plus years, it’s reassuring to discover that it really was a Vampire.
Come to think of it, as a kid growing up in Vancouver, the RCAF Vampires must have been the first jet fighters I’d ever seen. However, the sound of twin Merlins on Hornets streaking across the Harbor in Hong Kong is something that remains more vividly tattooed on my memory cells.
On another note, the Kai Tak Vampire photos were taken with a simple box camera – one aperture, one shutter speed, fixed focus. Seems so utterly simple compared with today’s zillion-mega-pixel digital cameras. My grandson calls these old photos, “Black and gray.” He’s too young to have heard of “black and white.” :)-
Kai Tak Venom
Hong Kong – late 1950s – Venom on display with a PR XIX Spitfire at the Cenotaph.
Venoms & Vampires
Still working on the KaiTak Venom images from Hong Kong which I’ll upload ASAP.
Meanwhile, here’s a Vampire in the Ottawa collection. Can you tell it’s in a Canadian collection? :)-
Bmp
AVI – Your pictures are in .bmp format. Try resaving them as a .jpg and then upload again.
Bruce
That’s what I’ve been trying to do without success.
I’ll rescan and post again later.