Harsh comment, but probably fair! And another reason not to go there.
I’ve been to his and his crews graves. I’m not sure much can be gained by going over this. I’m sure they did their best.
I thought that Radio 2 programme just finished was brilliant. WOW!
Friday Night Is Music Night, BBC Radio 2, Dambusters 70th (Including Jeremy Vine), WOW!!!! I’m just lost for words.
I am !!!!
Guess for sure he is no Anorak !:)
Agreed, but surely he could have genned up a bit on the subject (would BBC have a commentator at at football match who knew nothing about football?). Still, I will forgive him for his descripton on following up the instructions on firing up a Spitfire. Something he clearly appreciated.
The One Show tonight showed footage of Chris Evans in the Lancaster, Short but very sweet. IPlayer chaps.:)
Good that they showed a few viewers’ relatives Bomber Command photos right at the end of the show.
Still I had a good laugh when Jeremy Vine kept referring to the bomb being dropped from the undercarriage !
My comments were not intended to disrespect him. Indeed quite the opposite. If someone with demons can still accomplish great feats then so much more of a hero they are. I accept that the word “seemed” is misplaced; his men did respect him.
Mostly sold for scrap after the war, although I do know that the aircraft used by McCarthy (and indeed Johnny Johnson) was later shoot down over France while delivering weapons to the Resistence.
Chris Evans said the same thing this morning. Having listen to all of his show this morning he seemed to get very little right. I’m afraid I still don’t like him. I tried, i did my best!
Presumably the “crew” that got paraded in front of the US media and did the factory tours.
If you haven’t read it already, read Bruce Gamble’s biography, “Black Sheep One, The Life of Gregory Pappy Boyington”. Seems a controversial figure. Serious Alcohol problem, seemed to fly mostly with a hangover, or just plain drunk, womaniser, always wanting to fight in the mess and someone a bit economical with the truth when it came to number of kills (even in his AVG days) and also with the story surrounding how he was shot down and survived the subsequent crash. But a naturally gifted flyer. I have been trying to compare this book with Boyington’s own autobiography, but haven’t got hold of a copy yet. I’d suggest you do the same. I believe he was in a POW camp with Louis Zamperini, who I believe is still alive. Be interesting to find out what he thought of him. It was on his return as a POW that he suddenly claimed he had scored enough kills to become the Marines highest scorer. Still, his men seemed to like and respect him. Someone, perhaps to have an interesting beer with or not!
For the pedantics. (Robert Morgan makes clear HIS last flight was on 17th)
Captain Robert Morgan’s crew flew 29 combat missions with the 324th Bomb Squadron, all but four in the Memphis Belle. The aircraft’s 25 missions were:
7 November 1942 – Brest, France
9 November 1942 – St. Nazaire, France
17 November 1942 – St. Nazaire
6 December 1942 – Lille, France
20 December 1942* – Romilly-sur-Seine, France
30 December 1942 – Lorient (flown by Lt. James A. Verinis)
3 January 1943 – St. Nazaire
13 January 1943 – Lille
23 January 1943 – Lorient, France
14 February 1943 – Hamm, Germany
16 February 1943 – St. Nazaire
27 February 1943* – Brest
6 March 1943 – Lorient
12 March 1943 – Rouen, France
13 March 1943 – Abbeville, France
22 March 1943 – Wilhelmshaven
28 March 1943 – Rouen
31 March 1943 – Rotterdam, Netherlands
16 April 1943 – Lorient
17 April 1943 – Bremen, Germany
1 May 1943 – St. Nazaire
13 May 1943 – Meaulte, France (flown by Lt. C.L. Anderson)
14 May 1943 – Kiel, Germany (flown by Lt. John H. Miller)
15 May 1943 – Wilhelmshaven
17 May 1943 – Lorient
19 May 1943* – Kiel (flown by Lt. Anderson)
* Sources disagree on which two of these three missions the Memphis Belle received mission credits for.
Radio 2 tomorrow.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/dambusters.html