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  • in reply to: Lancaster S-Sugar #2092428
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Lancaster S-Sugar

    Like a sore thumb! But that is because we are using the correct Matt Black. It’s going to be a while before all the old incorrect semi gloss has been removed. The important point, however, is the conservation treatment to the bare metal once the old paint is removed, but before the new is applied.

    in reply to: Lancaster B.X KB976 #2092448
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Lancaster B.X KB976

    Thanks, It’s all making a bit more sense now.

    in reply to: Belfast Pictures at Prestwick #2092591
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Belfast Pictures at Prestwick

    The Belfasts (there were 10 built) were withdrawn in about 1977 due to defence cuts under Labour. There was no logic – just to save money. Part the reason was that all the aircraft were built slighlty differently (all prototypes in effect) so were more costly to run – or so the MOD said at the time.
    Three were brought by an African Freight company (PanAF), but there only got as far as RAF Manston were they were stored for a couple of years (G-BEPE, BEPL,BEPS). Were I saw them – great sight. Most of the others were srcaped at Hucknell – for their engines. Oddly come the Falklands War in 1982 the RAF were leasing the survivors back from civilian use.

    in reply to: Vimys #2092792
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Vimys

    Hendon.
    Wait until 17 December 2003 – You maybe pleasantly surprised…..

    in reply to: Lancaster B.X KB976 #2092794
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Lancaster B.X KB976

    Thanks to everyone who has taken the trouble to reply to my question. I’m not sure that we have got to the bottom of the matter. Why did Mr Weeks take the back end of KB994 and not the original of KB976? It was the front damaged at Manchester. I guess we will have to wait to see what finally happens.
    I’m afraid it won’t be a flying Lanc which was envisaged when KB976 flew across from Canada in the mid 1970s.
    Would be great to see a fully restored Lancaster KB976 alongside Lincoln RF342/G-29-1/G-APRJ.
    Anyone gets anymore news on these 2 aircraft please post it on the Forum. And anyone with a picture of the Lincoln at Southend would be interesting to see.

    in reply to: Which Spit is this? #2093024
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Which Spit is this?

    ……not only that Northolt airfield, where this gate guardian is, is also the site of the Polish War Memorial (on the A40)to the Polish Sqs based there, so even more reason for the Polish flag to appear.

    in reply to: Sir Ivor Broom #2093150
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Sir Ivor Broom

    This is the Daily Telegraph’s Obituary to the great man – odd he is not as well remembered as Gibson/Shannon/Reid etc.

    Air Marshal Sir Ivor Broom, who died on Friday aged 82, was awarded a DSO and three DFCs during his three tours of duty in some of the most hazardous bomber operations of the Second World War.
    In May 1944 Broom joined No 571, a Mosquito XVI squadron of the Light Night Striking Force (LNSF), teaming up with his navigator (and namesake), Flt Lt Tommy Broom.
    In their Mosquito – modified to carry a 4,000lb bomb – they were known to the press as “The Flying Brooms”, and had the emblem of crossed broomsticks painted on the nose of the aircraft. Although the modified Mosquito was equipped with no guns or rockets, the Brooms made numerous raids over Berlin delivering their “cookies”, as the 4,000-pounder was known.
    In his reports, Broom barely troubled to mention the heavy flak and night fighters they encountered on these raids. After a particularly bad night, he recorded only “wizard trip” in his logbook; on another occasion, four 500lb bombs dropped accurately on a target in Hanover merited only a laconic “bang on”.
    Ivor Broom also excelled at mine-laying, and his second DFC followed a neat low-level operation in which he dropped mines in the path of shipping in the Dortmund-Ems canal. It was an advantage in such pinpoint operations that Tommy Broom was an exceptional navigator; he had survived a crash-landing in Holland, then evaded capture and crossed the Pyrenees to Spain, before rejoining his unit six weeks later.
    Searchlights were a perpetual problem which, over Berlin, coned the Brooms for as long as a quarter of an hour. After twisting, turning and diving to escape the glare, Ivor Broom once asked his disoriented navigator for a course to base. Tommy Broom replied: “Fly north with a dash of west, while I sort myself out.”
    During this period the Flying Brooms lobbed a cookie up the mouth of a railway tunnel in Germany with two fighters on their tail, and Ivor Broom received a second Bar to his DFC.
    In autumn 1944 he was promoted acting squadron leader in command of a flight in No 128 (another LNSF Mosquito squadron). A few months later he was appointed acting wing commander to lead No 163 Squadron. Tommy Broom, now DFC and Bar, joined him as squadron navigation officer.
    The pair then led a series of brilliant offensive operations over Germany and Occupied Europe. When the war in Europe ended on May 8 1945, the Flying Brooms had undertaken 58 missions (including 22 raids on Berlin). Ivor Broom was awarded a DSO, and Tommy a third DFC.
    Ivor Gordon Broom was born at Cardiff on June 2 1920, and spent much of his childhood in the Rhondda, where his father was district manager for the Prudential Assurance Company and a Baptist preacher.
    Ivor was educated at the Boys’ County School, Pontypridd, and grew up in a Christian home in which honesty, tolerance and fair play were encouraged. Temperance was also a virtue, and Broom rarely drank and never smoked – although this never prevented him from enjoying a party.
    When he was 17, Broom passed the Civil Service exam and began work with the Inland Revenue. He learned to fly in 1940, while the Battle of Britain was being fought, and the next year was posted to No 114 Squadron; here he flew in Blenheim low-level daylight operations against Channel and North Sea shipping, and targets along the French and Dutch coasts as well as in Germany.
    Broom’s leadership qualities first surfaced in the early autumn of 1941 when, although still a sergeant, he was detailed to lead six Bristol Blenheim two-engine light bombers to Malta, en route to reinforce Singapore.
    As the Blenheims touched down on the beleaguered Mediterranean island, Air Vice Marshal Hugh Pughe Lloyd was quick to grab Broom and his aircraft, in part replacement of his Blenheim losses, leaving the other five Blenheims to proceed to the Far East.
    But for this, Broom would have died or become a prisoner-of-war during the fall of Singapore. As it was, Lloyd retained him to fly with No 107 Squadron, whose Blenheims were incurring heavy losses attacking Axis shipping, and targets in North Africa and Italy.
    When 107 had lost all its officers, Lloyd told Broom: “Move into the officers’ mess. We will sort the paperwork out later.” Thus Broom became a pilot officer.
    The young, voluble and highly articulate “lad from the Rhondda” (as he was known) rapidly justified Lloyd’s confidence, repeatedly pressing home low level attacks on heavily escorted Axis shipping.
    On November 17 1941 he bombed and set ablaze a 4,000-ton ship in the Gulf of Sirte, and helped attack a destroyer. But the cost, as usual, was high: while Broom’s skill and courage saw him through, two of a force of six Blenheims were lost. He had survived 43 sorties when, in January 1942, he returned home wearing the ribbon of his first DFC.
    After his return from Malta, Broom took an instructor’s course at the Central Flying School, then spent a year teaching novice Blenheim pilots how to attack at low level.
    It was in May 1943 that Broom began his love affair with the de Havilland Mosquito, the speedy twin-engined “wooden wonder” which was to figure so prominently in the remainder of his wartime operational career.
    At first Broom remained an instructor, honing the skills of exceptional pilots creamed off by the Australian-born Air Vice-Marshal Don Bennett for his No 8 Pathfinder Group.
    One night during this period Broom was landing with a Canadian pupil when the port engine failed at 400 feet.
    Broom recalled: “We had full flap down, and on a Mosquito with full flap there is no way you can go round again. I raised the undercarriage, and was going to let the aircraft settle on open countryside when the pupil suddenly said, ‘We’re going to crash’ – and fully opened the throttle of the good engine.”
    The Mosquito did crash, and the pupil was killed. Broom, who suffered a broken back, was flying again only four months later.
    After VE Day, Broom was posted to Ceylon, but was spared further action by the Japanese surrender. He was sent to Singapore, where he dropped rank to squadron leader to command No 28, a Spitfire fighter squadron – although he never flown the type before.
    In 1948 he returned home, and dropped rank again in order to attend staff college as a flight lieutenant. When he passed out he resumed as a squadron leader, and learned to fly jets; in April 1953 he formed No 57, the third squadron to be equipped with English Electric Canberra jet bombers.
    Having moved on to the RAF Flying College at Manby, in 1955 Broom piloted a specially-modified Canberra from Ottawa to London via the North Pole; this was the return trip on what was then a pioneering route over the North Pole. Broom was then awarded the AFC.
    In 1956 Broom was made responsible for the Bomber Command Development Unit at Wittering, where he led intensive trials on Valiants and Canberras of the nascent nuclear deterrent, V-Force.
    In 1959 he moved into the Air Secretary’s department until 1962, when he was appointed station commander at RAF Bruggen in Germany. Following a year at the Imperial Defence College, two years at the Ministry of Defence, and a spell as commandant of the Central Flying School, Broom took command in 1970 of No 11, the famous fighter Group which had defended London and the South East in 1940.
    At this time he was concerned with the presence in the Iceland-Faroes gap of Soviet Bear (Tu 95) reconnaissance aircraft. To ensure that he was fully in control of every situation, he secured a radio to his golf bag; and one Saturday morning, he was summoned from the golf course at Stanmore, Middlesex, as two Soviet aircraft had appeared in the North Sea.
    The Bears approached St Andrews (where the Open was in progress), but turned back some 15 miles from the coast – Broom continued his game.
    In 1977 he concluded his RAF career as controller of National Air Traffic Services; but he maintained close links with the various veterans’ organisations, in which he was a popular figure, noted for his bonhomie. He was president of the Mosquito Aircrew Association from 1993, and a former president of the Pathfinder Association.
    Broom also worked energetically for the Royal Air Forces Association, the RAF Benevolent Fund, the Blenheim Society, the Aircrew Association and the Bomber Command Association. He was a member of the Civil Aviation Board (1974-77), and chairman of Farnborough Aerospace Development Corporation from 1985 to 1992.
    He was appointed CB in 1972, and KCB in 1975.
    In 1942 Ivor Broom married Jess Cooper, with whom he had two sons and a daughter. All survive him.

    in reply to: Sir Ivor Broom #2094139
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Sir Ivor Broom

    Very sad news indeed. I had the privilege of having met him on a couple of occasions. But I’ll best remember him on a TV debate on BBC following the showing of the appalling Canadian TV programme “Death by Moonlight” when he put up a robust defence of Bomber Command. I won’t repeat his description to me of the two Canadian brothers who made the CBC programme!

    in reply to: A Lanc that glows in the dark! #2094302
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: A Lanc that glows in the dark!

    If you don’t know potential the dangers of long exposure to Radium 226 then stay away from the inside of old aircraft; and their dials (even if on sale anywhere).

    in reply to: Isn't it about time Sally B was repainted. #2094305
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Isn’t it about time Sally B was repainted.

    The Bomber Command Hall at Hendon is, and was always intended to show the history of RAF Bomber Command and USAAF 8th and 9th Air Forces. So No, the B17 in RAF Coastal Command colours would be totally out of place.

    A separate Coastal Command Hall is another matter…any money from anyone out there?

    in reply to: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar #2094599
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar

    Interesting idea. Why not put it to the Museum direct?

    in reply to: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar #2094616
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: The famous Lancaster R5868 POS Sugar

    …….and I’m one of the Volunteer Friends who, with my wife, has been working on the bomb bay door, port side; working from the rear. You can just see the work, Primer on treated metal, in the photos in this month’s FlyPast. There seem to have been some comment about Sugar on this forum and I’ve avoided direct comment on the issue until, now. But as the subject has come up….
    You will also all be interested to know that the conservation treatment has also included the port side inner undercarriage door and the area immediately above and a panel to the left. This last panel has been removed and it’s this that I’m currently working on.
    We are awaiting the return of the Elevators from Cosford, the work on the ribs I understand has been a major project in itself.
    Before anyone asks about the tail resting on a pole, this is a museum policy decision, so I can’t comment.
    Should anyone wish to help out at Hendon, then become a volunteer. I did……

    in reply to: Hemswell #2094806
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    in reply to: Hemswell #2094860
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    RE: Hemswell

    Bet you didn’t know that Michael Bentine once told the story that with the bomb loads the Poles used to drop Elsan chemical toilets until the Nazis complained to the International Red Cross in Geneva that the British had started to use chemical weapons against international treaty and the Poles were ordered to stop. I believe that he was an RAF intelligence officer.
    It was also his suggestion in the 1960’s to the SAS that they take on an anti-terrorist role against urban terrorists.
    Now where can I get his “Potty Time” on video?

    in reply to: Tirbute to the Mighty Stringbag! #2095766
    David_Kavangh
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    RE: Tirbute to the Mighty Stringbag!

    Watch out for a BBC Documentary soon (don’t know when) but the wreck of the WW2 Ark Royal has been found and filmed; as were half a dozen Swordfishes which had slid off the deck when she sank.
    (also spare a thought today for the current Ark Royal that sails from Portsmouth into who knows what)

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