Hello Darryl,
Will be happy if your search will be succesfully!
Regards
Franek

Thanks. Very iteresting info. Just realized that RAF 50/60’s is Black Magic for me.
Do You have a better copy?I lost physical contact with MAM & SAM 2 years ago, when local dstributor stopped selling… You believe, over 100 000 people in the city and only two or three copies sold per month!

FzJgr

Will look, may have dimensional drawings in pilots notes for the prop, the exhaust cut out in the cowls is 90 mm at the front and 110 mm at the rear.

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Thanks. I found in Japanese Aero-Detail that propeller for Mk.X1V and XV111 is Rotol R19/5F5/1, and has 10ft and 5in. (3,175m) diameter. Was the same as on P.R. XiX?

FzJgr

To add a little to what Tony said, as there is some confusion in modelling circles about this. A and B wing Spitfires always had a very subtle kidney shaped bump over the wheel wells. This ‘kidney blister’ appears to have been deleted from the C and E wing, no wartime pictures show it. The first set of wartime u/c mods necessitated the stiffener cut and ‘kidney blister’ wings were beefed up by two external stiffeners (you can see these on R6915). This is sometimes confused with the post war oleo mod Tony mentioned that introduced the teardrop wheel well blister.

As Tony says, no wartime C or E Wing aicraft should have a wheel well blister of any kind.

Many thanks for your insight. I know early wing blister (integral with skin). At ocassion: these two external stiffeners on A and B wings (even seen on at least one….earliest RR-built [modified VC] Mk. IXC) are usually to be non-factory modification (just repair kit) necessitated by wing surface deformation at wheel bay area. Near all preserved A or B winged Spits have these stiffeners. One without is Hendon’s BL 614. I always wondered if exist any correlation between internal and external stiffeners in A/B wing. (i would like to see what BL 614 has inside…:))
On popular shemes of A/B wing construction there is notning inside, but on C wing scheme there are two internal (and seems that integral with rest of structure) stiffeners.

About post-war undercarriage (3-spoked wheel on “non angled axle”): it seems to me, that not always needed big, symmetrical flat blister as on some examples, but sometimes only very narrow aerodynamically shaped one, as seen on “today’s” PS853. Talking of course about C/E wings and derivatives.

Cheers

FzJgr

Super reference. Although I am impressed with PS 853, I have to ask about other example of P.R. X1X : do you know any well documented example from wartime (or just after) period ? With well documented markings etc. I am rather new in the Griffon -powered Spits subject (sadly, they never been in inventory of Polish A.F….) so I have only SAM Datafile and Japanese Aero-Detail (no word about P.R.s). Both of Griffon Spitfires, of course.

Cheers
FzJgr

Thanks for infos. Many of Mk.1X and X1V kits have large bumps over wheelwell and wartime markings, what is mistake.
I always try to find photos of identically (or near identically) posed aircraft (and propellers) when comparing details.
Hoffman props seem to look identical with original only on some Mk.IXs.
Differences are evident when looking at original and today’s Mk.Vs and Griffon powered warbirds. Tips are much wider and more brutally in appearance. Also roots at Mk.V ared much different than original.
When you talkin about “filler caps”, you think about “main fuel tank filler caps” or also about somethin else?
With some small errors, the P.R.X1X kit is fortunatelly of total new design, and has nothing to do with Airfix’s “stout Mk.X11”.

Regards
FzJgr

So I understand that a wartime (or just after the war) scheme of PS 853 is : PR Blue (matt?) overall, black 2nd TAF spinner, white “C” on fuselage sides and under nose, C-type Roundels on fuselage sides and upper wings. What is with those different fonts in the serial number because I don’t understand? Details of port side are unknown? Cockpit in general in A/C Grey-Green.

What is correct size of main wheels for a/c on wartime photo?

It is interesting that sometimes I read about the different types of wheels used in the Spitfire different versions at different times, but none of the authors of the popular studies does not provide specific sizes. Does anyone know:)?

Regards
FzJgr

I am very happy with your responses. I am always very impressed with the knowledge and competence of persons connected closer than I with real planes.

Does really “SAL” = Supermarine Aviation (Works) Ltd.?
Some (I don’t) say that these letters may be seen also on a/c from other factories than Supermarine. Maybe due to cannibalization of parts?
I ask because on a local modelling forum I was somewhat criticized for an explanation of the abbreviation.

I also would like to know what is “S.A.L.65” in dashed rectangle (IWM Spitfire Mk.I). Looks like quality-control stamp (?).

About mistake with SM411 stenciling: It is sad fact with consequences…
As I remember, she has been repainted several times in lifetime. Last time in 2001 at Krakow, to look like machine of 308 Sqn.. But since 1977, when she came to Poland, she was untouched with brush.

And a little off topic:
It was pure pleasure to watch beautifull PR XIX in TonyT’s photostream.
Quick question : how to paint cockpit of PR XIX? All black, as I have seen on some photos (probably unrestored example) or grey-green with black over upper longerons, or simply grey-green? Talking about post-war example, closer to 1950. The eternal problem with late Spitfires/Seafires…

Best Regards
frzjgr