I really thought that the purpose of Joust was to show that Typhoon need a long range BVR missile (S-225, Meteor…).
All of this is still unclear.

Why not just accept the truth – the Rafale and Typhoon are both on a par.

Because it’s inaccurate.;)

The Rafale probably has a slight edge in air to ground, but the Typhoon probably has a slight edge in air to air.

Maybe. Who’s trying to prove otherwise in this thread ? The problem is what Jackonicko saies, i think it is somewhat arguable, and i’ve already clearly said why.

The MMI in the Typhoon seems to be a little better,

Ah ha ? Did you test it ? (and both) 😎

but frankly the Rafale is no slouch either.

Yes, but at least your point of view MAY be wrong. And I don’t understand why.:(

Put the two fighters up against each other, and it will be the better pilot (and the luckier one!) who wins.

Probably, and it’s exactly what I expect.
But we still don’t have leaks from the confrontation between Italian air force Typhoons and french marine Rafale…

I really HAD too put it there :
RAF Air Chief Marshal flies the Rafale

Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy visited the French Air Force base at St Dizier this week and had the opportunity to fly in a Rafale F2 with the Officer Commanding from 17 Squadron. 17 Squadron is the first French Air Force Squadron to incorporate an Operational Evaluation Unit (OEU) and a Operational Conversion Unit (OCU)

The sortie; a medium level close air support mission which included Terrain Following Radar (TFR), consisted of 2 x Rafale F2; which has a full air-to-ground attack capability, against 2 x Mirage 2000 RDI multirole fighter aircraft. Air chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy was impressed with the Rafale F2 performance and the intuitive cockpit layout, and greatly impressed with the sensor fusion. The Rafale F2 aircraft at present are deployed in Afghanistan by the French Air Force and French Navy.The Chief of the Air Staff signing

The visit proved to be very successful and has opened the way for closer liaisons between the Typhoon OEU/OCU and 17 Squadron French Air Force in the future.

I don’t think they are to blame, but this zealot of a “journalist”. After all it was his comment, not part of the quote.

I wasn’t blaming them. And I can ensure you that the “zealot of a journalist” didn’t wrote this comment on his own. Every time papers talk about Tiger Meet, it’s the same… I find it funny, and I don’t blame for this one.

By the way, could somebody please answer my question regarding the specific fuel consumption of the M88 engines that have seen service yet?

The M88-2 had these figures :
AB : 1,7 kg/daN.h
Dry : 0.8 kg/daN.h

The currently used M88-2 E4 (“Etape 4″=Step 4) has an overall consumption 2 to 4% lower…

It is a level above the Eurofighter which, it should be added, also shone at the exercise. But only by its absence…

😀
Dassault and French AdA remains on their over-provocative positions.:rolleyes: