Ah, I just love those pics.,sorry but I am going off topic as this is a helo thread & the question I have is hardly worth starting a thread for. Does anyone please know what the seating layout for the Battlefield Lynx & Flynx is? I regularly read that they can carry 8 armed troops & in the case of the Flynx possibly on crash resisant seats, there is room 6’9″ – 5’10” floorspace but the door does not appear to slide the full length of the cabin unlike the Blackhawk etc.How do the seats fit in? Again sorry to be off topic.

Off topic

Still off topic ,but we need another funding ‘black hole ” like a hole in our head. If the G&C design is eventually selected to be built it has the capacity to develop into one quite easily ala the Collins Class Subs which are eventually turning out OK but lots & lots of $$$$ later. I suppose we will eventually get the CEA FAR on the Anzacs but again it is expensive ,about $150 million++ a shipset I am led to believe.

Technically the F/A-18 doesn’t have a straight wing. The A-37 is a jet with an almost straight wing. The sweep on the F/A-18 leading edge is about the same as the F-104. The F-35C also has sweep that matches what is seen on the F/A-18. This works well for low speed handling, it did back then and it still does today.

When McDonnell Douglas and Northrop joined forces to produce the F/A-18 for the US Navy, it was agreed that McD would get the carrier based sales and Northrop would get the land-based sells. McD went after all sells and Northrop sued over it. No real F-18Ls were ever produced, it was a paper jet for the most part.

Spot on Bug Lover , prior to the court case Northrop had tried in their sales literature to promote the YF17 as the F18L to Canada and Australia but nothing came of it . There was never a real F/A 18L design at all.

Up down ,down down ,???????

Hi Orko 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 I am not game to ask if they make it go up & down, they always filled subs up with water or pumped it out in the movies I have seen. I think I will stop here before I go under for the third time myself.
Hi Alepou Aaaaaaaaaaaargh I have been listening to her for 46 years already have a bit of pity for me. Maybe I could ask her if she knows anything about submarines, maybe not.:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Regards
Tiddles

Bruce the Goose

The Dutch Mariners had a rather sordid safety record. Still a shame they were all scrapped (well, the ones that didn’t crash). My brothers inlaw-dad hasn’t got fond memories of the Merlins, he was a whole lot happier serving with other boatpeople in a submarine.

As for Bruce; let me introduce to you the Philosophy Faculty of the Australian University of Australia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqgnExSiS0s

What a wonderful plane is the C-27 Spartan, now onto the real thrust of this thread. Maybe the trip on the Mariner was not such a brilliant idea after all, it sure looks great though. As for Bruce ,well he is alive & well down here, but working much harder & longer since the arrival of the new Industrial Relations Laws. Bruce is probably responsible for both the unilateral action & the deputy sherriff clangers by the government,stay tuned there is bound to be more as we get close to elections at the end of the year. By the way is there any reason why there doesnt seem to be much Canadian stuff on the Forum or is this just my imagination.

Unilateral Deputy Sherriff

Responsible members of the international community don’t act unilaterally. They either form an alliance, or gather a bunch of lackey states. The idea of Australia having the ‘need’ to strike Malaysia because of one threat or the other is preposterous and smells of Kopp-paranoia.

I tend to agree with you on this ,however, the “unilateral force” speech is never mentioned & is sidestepped by the Government these days. Another clanger was the “Deputy Sherriff” speech, even our mates in the US scoffed at that one and it did not help our cause in this region.By the way ,I may be a bit thick, but who on earth is Bruce. Ah well Arthur wouldnt we both rather be tooling around in a Martin Mariner than talking politics.

Its all Greek to me

I stand corrected sir.

Unicorn

Ah well ,whats 9 or 10 million people between friends, of the extra Australians probably 2 or 3 million of them are of Greek origin anyhow, Melbourne has the geatest concentration of Greeks outside Athens we are told. This has been a big plus for us. Seriously though having second hand ships does have some advantages , at least they have some grunt ,of our latest 8 Frigates the Anzac class, only one the HMAS Warramunga has been fitted with the Harpoon missile the other 7 rely on their 127cm gun for anti -surface warfare.

Avalon Pics

Nice pics.,well done ,I thought that the Super Hornet & the C-27 displays were superb, interestingly Alenia are expecting to sell some [12-14] to the ADF so I suppose they pulled out all stops. Also I was surprised at the size of the Tiger ,quite a bit larger than I expected,in fact very much so.