Two P-51 at the Airforce Museum Hatzerim and one at the Tech Training school at Haifa.
Two P-51 at the Airforce Museum Hatzerim and one at the Tech Training school at Haifa.
McClellan AFB, Sacrmento USA ?
And the answer to the second question ?????
The Twentieth Century Society would be marching on Whitehall!
I did not mean that ‘modern’ buildings could not be listed, just that the airfield architecture might not be considered as significant, ie if it exists else where in the UK. But the events and the buildings ‘place in history’ might warrant consideration.
Also try contacting your local authority, they might have an ‘unoffical ‘ inventory of interesting local buildings which although not giving legal protection might afford some assurance that works / demolition can at least be delayed whilst objections are raised.
English Heritage are the overseer’s of the scheme to list, and therefore protect, buildings and locations of significance. Note the words ‘locations’ because most airfield structures will be seen as ‘modern’ therefor will not be considered, however the events which once took place at the location may be considered the reason for listed status.
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.19800
The quote below is from
http://www.heritage.co.uk/apavilions/glstb.html
and I suggest it would be your first port of call regarding the rules of what English Heritage would consider.
“For advice on how to get a building listed, or on listing in general, contact The Department of Culture, Media and Sport, 2-4 Cockspur Street, London SWI Y SDH.”
Hope this helps.
Wow !! Well done sir !!! Having tried this sort of photo stitching (and failled) those montages are excellent. Think the misaligned foreground would be easy to photoshop out ?
CADman
I think we would agree that all the airframes at Lasham require a secure home let hope that in the near future this will happen. The Aeropark / Long Marston thread is a shinning example of what can be achieved.
This is a problem with UK planning law. Whatever the result of planning enquiry, the losing party can simply re-apply with a slightly diffent application and the whole process starts again. New rules are in the pipeline for big, nationally important projects to speed the process and avoid lengthy appeals and public enquiries, but it is still not clear if this will mean a ‘no today’ is still a ‘no tomorrow’
Thanks for link Glenn, lots of info there.
Can anybody confirm the history and identity of the Hind (?) fuselage. Also what are the long term plans.
Can anybody confirm the appearance of the Demon at Sundays airshow ?
Exactly the sort of thing I was thinking off, but £15 seems a little high. I would aim the tour of Cosford more at the non aviation person who is keen to learn about the aircraft rather than just look and guess what they have seen. I wounder how many vistior to Cosford go home thinking they have seen a Lancaster, not the Lincoln.
Is anybody on the Forum an insider at Cosford ?
Twinotter – Yes she does know what she is missing !!! thats why she stays in the car 🙂 In fairness she has been around the museum a couple of times with me and does enjoy looking, quite often at things which I would normally miss, but I am happy to pop in just because a) the sun it out and b) you have got something new.
If they have to charge at all then to my mind the admission charge is the way to go at least then you pay to get in and can stay all day with nothing to worry about rather than paying for car parking and having to remember what time you have to go top up the parking ticket..
Although I dont agree with the any of the admission / parking charges at if we have to have one then car parking is the way to go. If they charge £5 all day car parking then thats it sorted. But if they charge person then you will have £5 per adult, then £3 per child and probalby another rate for OAP, disabled, carer, group rates, ect. So the family of four its going to add up, and if dad (the aircraft enthustiast) can’t afford to take the wife and kids he will not go himself and the children will not learn to enjoy aviation. I have often stopped at Cosford as a short detour from the M54 with the girlfriend and she is quite happy follow me around or use the cafe. However there have been times at Newark where she has remained in the car whilst I visited the museum because she was put off by even Newark’s modest entrance fee.
If the museum has to generate more income how about a small additional charge to visit the conservation centre, every day, not just on the odd week or access some otherwise ‘private’ part of the museum. An idea I have seen in the USA has been to charge for a guided tour, where a small group can be shown around the collection and given a small talk or slide show, not necessarily what us forumites would use but if presented right then it might generate a few quid.
Paying for car parking at Cosford seems a little bit over the top, after all where else can you go other than the museum after you have paid ? Hendon however would seem to have a better excuss after all how many people have used Hendon to park the car then catch the Tube into central London ? I have done this when business meetings have allowed a return to Hendon before closing time at 5.00pm, I have of course also taken the opertunity of a quick look around, on one occansion even dragging three non aviation colleages around the place!!!