Why do you show missiles in the wing root fairings?

Some people have been arguing that those are bays for Short rage AAMs ,ome on each side for quick relise during dog fights. Personaly i think there is another purpose for those .. part of LO design or housing for ECM type of electronics :confused:

So designers at Sukohi , who clearly have less know how than few forum amateurs… went to all that trouble to create incredibly well designed frontal stealth geometry …. and then left engine intake completly exposed :rolleyes:

Its akin to Ferrari designing modern F1 car … and forgeting to put wheels on it. But then again some people believe Adam and Eve rode on t-Rex 5000 years ago, or that NASA faked moon landing… such people are best ignored…..:D:D:D:D:D

MiG-35 (or a variant of it) will be good. I am sure the Russians will make a special price for them.

:rolleyes:

Yes, you got some perfectly good points ther. About the missiles though, i dont think it wouldn bee to hard to convert Gripen for Israeli and South African missiles. The engine is trickier though. But Serbia actually has a great force of skilled engineers and scientists, so with som luck (and covert assistance) it schouldnt be totally impossible for them to reverse engineer it. Serbs are pretty clever people. (And if that fails, se what Russia, China and France has to offer).

… Even at the height of Yugoslav airospace industry.. Engines were always imported or build under licence. If Sweeden could not develop indigenous engine… well need i say more.

Personally I do not think Americans would bother blocking sale of dozen Gripens to Serbia… but they would not allow any advanced avionics or missiles.

Another very interesting comment from the site above

“Use the money to “purchase” 20-24 US Senators … far more beneficial for our seccurity” hahaha cant say i do not agree.

Nopse, Gripen is what Serbia needs, (Any US equipbent schould be outof the question). And given our countries rather good/good relations Im sure a fair price could be negotiated. Throw in two or thre SAAB-EriEye and Serbia can once again dominate the Balcans (save Greece. Wich is an allie anyway). 🙂

Gripen is designed by Sweden,whose defense strategy and position is very simmilar to Serbia. Deffending against large adversary, against huge numbers, rugged, take off from roads etc,,, all things Serbia would value.

… However Gripen sale can be blocked by US at a whim… and Serbia would have to rely on Western AAMs … I do not see Aim120 or Meteor ever allowed into Serbia. MBDA MICA is about advanced as Serbia has hope of getting in terms of BVR.

Meh… there is no money to “purchase” anything.. They have been issuing RFIs isnce 2004… If they could lease dozen unused Fulcrums like those X Algerian SMTs, or some second hand Gripens/Falcons … it would be a minor miracle.

On a more strategic note, spending billion $ on 20-24 aircraft , that would get swatted down like flies in any confrontation with NATO (as we are now 100% surrounded by NATO members ) is utterly pointless. Far better option is to get 10-12 JF17 of the type Pakistan is getting with western equipment. Heck FA50 would be ideal if S.Koerans ever get it developed.

10-12 JF17 would cost less then 5-6 Gripens/MiGs and offer not that much less in capability. SrAF would have “new” AC for maintaining training and tradition over next decade or so, after which they might decide if economic recovery occurs , to expand that capability with more worthwhile articles. Patrolling the sky and training pilots is something that JF17 will do just fine.

Now the remaining 80% of that billion dollars you divide and purchase 10-15 batteries of BUK 2ME, and 15-20 Batteries of SPYDER … and then you have something to seriously worry anybody intruding into your airspace… Which is precisely why our American overlords would never let their puppets in Belgrade contemplate such silly idea. Much better to spend money you dont have, on aircraft you dont need , for achieving squat all in defense capability.

:rolleyes:

Also all the odds and sods about who sighted the islands first or who had a settlement or a claim there a hundred and fifty plus years ago are utterly irrelevant given that there is a long standing population on the islands. The history of the origins of a population, regardless of their origins, has no relevance to their democratic right to self determination.

Kurdistan
Basque
N.Ireland
Scotland
Wales
Republika Srpska
Parst of Greece close to Albania
Parts of Macedonia
Srpska Krajina
S.Osetia
Abkhasia
Crimea

These are just few of many places i could think of in 10 seconds where UK govt would/was staunchly opposed to “democratic right of self determination”… some of the reason cited would be the same arguments Argies are using to lay claim to Falklands.

Seems to be “democratic right to self determination” only appliacable on case by case basis when Major Powers are concearned… just like support for democracy is on case by case basis.. sometimes cruel Dictatorship is of more … economic+strategic interest… Hypocrites :rolleyes:

Honestly… if you are going to engage in such activity talk to local Authorities. Many countries have laws that permit you taking as many photos as you want from public space, providing you do not enter restricted area. On the other hand in some like India it is illegal to photograph government buildings..so it is not hard to extrapolate what they think about snaps of military hardware.

That said i hope they get released with a warning… maybe smack behind the ears few times. 😮