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  • in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2562913
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    F-16s to Pak worry IAF chief

    The US government’s move to sell 36 more advanced F-16s to Pakistan could not have come at a worse time for IAF, which is in a tailspin with its fighter squadrons dwindling rapidly.

    Apart from indigenous ‘Tejas’ Light Combat Aircraft being nowhere near operational, the much-delayed IAF project to acquire 126 multi-role combat aircraft is also still to take off.

    “The US government’s approval to sell F-16s to Pakistan is certainly of concern to us. We will obviously have to factor the changed balance of power in our planning,” said Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi, in an exclusive interview with TOI on Wednesday.

    At the same time, he added, IAF is “adequately capable and prepared to give a dominating response to the provocative intentions of any adversary”.

    IAF plans “to retain its capability to dominate during any air operations” with faster induction of Sukhoi-30MKIs, upgrades of existing fighters and acquisition of “force-multipliers” like three Israeli ‘Phalcon’ AWACS (airborne warning and control systems) and six more air-to-air refuellers (it already has six IL-78s, said ACM Tyagi.

    The $5-billion American package to Pakistan, incidentally, also includes an upgrade for 34 F-16s already present in Pakistan’s combat fleet, apart from a deadly munitions package, including beyond-visual range missiles.

    In addition, Pakistan is also going to acquire a large number of JF-17 ‘Thunder’ fighters jointly developed with China.

    In contrast, the Indian RFPs (request for proposals) for the $6.5-billion contract to procure 126 MRCA are yet to be issued to the contenders โ€” Russian MiG-35, French Rafale, Swedish JAS-39 Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon and, of course, the American F/A-18 “Super Hornets” and F-16 “Falcons”.

    It will take another five-six years for the actual contract to be signed and another four-five years after that for the fighter deliveries to commence.

    IAF, obviously, is worried. The number of its fighter squadrons (each has 12 to 18 jets) will touch a never-before low of 28 next year from a high of almost 40 two decades ago.

    This has happened due to the delay in acquiring replacements for ageing MiG-21s, which constitute 45% of the around 700 IAF fighters and are being gradually phased out with MiG-23s.

    Consequently, IAF is now even exploring some quick-fix solutions like procuring some additional Mirage-2000s or MiG-29s as a stop-gap measure. On his part, ACM Tyagi says several measures are being taken “to arrest the draw-down of combat strength”.

    “First, the delivery time-frame for Sukhoi-30MKIs being manufactured by HAL has been compressed. Seven Sukhoi squadrons will be operational by the end of 11th Plan,” he said.

    Second, the RFP for 126 MRCA is likely to be sent out shortly. Third, IAF is upgrading its Jaguars, Mirage-2000s, MiG-27s and MiG-29s. ๐Ÿ™

    in reply to: Indian Missile news and speculations #1812056
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    Why did Agni-III lose its fire?

    Agni-III took off majestically as the solid propellants fired well. Yet, the missile could not go its full course. What really went wrong with it, though the Agni team seemed so sure as the simulation trials were successful? There is definitely a case for conducting more test flights of the missiles to master the technologies and prove the ruggedness of the components.

    India’s quest for acquiring a minimum credible deterrent and arming itself with long-range, nuclear capable, air strike power, received a setback, with the `failure’ of the first trial flight of its most ambitious Agni-III missile.

    It could be at least six-eight months before the Defence scientists ready the next test flight of Agni-III, consequent to the mishap that struck the maiden launch on July 9 from Wheeler Island off the coast of Orissa.

    According to initial data, the reasons for the `failure’ of the missile to go its full course, after a smooth take-off, were a combination of control and component features not measuring up to the task. The long-range missile had, after a perfect lift-off and flight for nearly 70 seconds, suddenly developed `snags’ and, unable to smoothly transit into Stage-II, tumbled off, severing links with the mission control.

    Indigenous Agni-III

    The fully indigenous Agni-III weighed 48 tonnes, was 16 metres tall with a payload of 1.5 tonnes. After hours of checking and cross-checking nearly 200 parameters, the missile command had pressed the okay for Agni-III to take-off at exactly 11-03 on that Sunday morning.

    The confidence among the DRDO (Defence Research and Development Organisation) missile family was high. The missile was carrying a range of systems, products and components that had been developed indigenously. They were all tested and re-tested. The team had been waiting for months, after having test-run and simulated various systems and sub-systems, for the final launch.

    Short-lived euphoria

    It went as programmed: The missile took off majestically as the solid propellants fired well. But the euphoria among DRDO team was short-lived. After 70 seconds, the missile, just into the second stage, broke-up, lost contact with the control room and plunged into the Bay of Bengal, scientists said.

    What really went wrong, even as the Agni team seemed so sure after the successful simulation trials? According to Defence scientists, there is always a gap between the actual testing and simulation. While the latter can tell you that you have a design in place, the former will indicate if that design is foolproof or error-prone. The core team of the Agni-III programme, piloted by the Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), Hyderabad, will now have to scrutinise all the data collected by the six radars, the different telemetry and tracking stations, and learn the lessons fast. On the face of it, the propulsion system did well, the Rocket Motor Casings performed good, the inertial navigation and guidance was fine and the on-board computer took over. “It can be easily a 50-70 per cent success of the systems as of now. The final analysis will give us the complete picture,” explained scientists involved in the programme.

    The two-stage, solid propellant-powered, surface-to-surface, ballistic missile, Agni, has been the `pride’ and most strategic project in the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP), launched in 1982-83, to give the country the necessary strike power and defence capability. In addition to ASL, the Research Centre Imarat (RCI), the Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL), the Defence Electronics Research Laboratory (DLRL), the Defence Metallurgical Research Laboratory (DMRL), amd the High Energy Materials Laboratory (HEMRL) are actively involved in the project.

    It is interesting to note that the July 9 partial failure of Agni-III is just the second mishap in 10 flights of Agni, in its different avatars โ€” Agni-I (700 km range) and Agni-II (2,000 km) โ€” since 1989, when the first technology development flight was successfully accomplished by the DRDO.

    Impact of failure

    In the field of missile technology, India finds itself on tough terrain. It can, for neither money nor love, get technology, components or buy missiles from the advanced nations because of the control regimes enforced on it.

    Hence, development has to be from the scratch, in which case, failure cannot be a big surprise. But, then, the failures tend to have a larger impact for countries like India, compared to the developed nations, both in terms of time lost and cost.

    While guesstimates put the cost of assembling a single long-range Agni missile at Rs 10-15 crore, the equivalent system for a long-range missile in the Agni class would cost five-six times more abroad.

    The real challenges thrown up by the failure are in bridging the technology gaps, and developing indigenously the components and systems. This implies delays in taking the project from trial to user to manufacture and final induction.

    More trials, a must

    To get an idea, the first Agni technology demonstrator was successfully carried out in May 1989, after the initial drawings were frozen in 1987. The user trials of the Agni-I and Agni-II were completed in 2002 and 2004. The number of trials was comparatively few by international standards.

    This raises the issue as to why more trials cannot be undertaken. There is definitely a case for conducting more test flights of the missiles to master the technologies and prove the rugged nature of the indigenously-developed components, especially the carbon composites.

    Not just in Agni, but also in Tejas โ€” the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) โ€” the percentage of carbon composites has been gradually increasing. The light-weight, tough composites have successfully reduced the weight of these weapon systems.

    The strategic significance of Agni-III could make it difficult for India to do a large number of tests, as the delays in the first test flight itself have shown.

    It is obvious that with its capability to reach 3,500 km, the country will be able to target Beijing or Shanghai; Agni-I and Agni-II can reach every corner of the sub-continent.

    In 18 years, from the initial design of Agni which was able to carry a payload of 100-250 kg at a speed of 7-8 km/sec, Mission Agni has brought the country to the verge of catapulting it into the exclusive group that can develop missiles of over 3,500 km range.

    But the proverbial slip between the cup and the lip has temporarily delayed this journey. :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2563571
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    Boom Time for HAL; Indian Prime Rides Multiple Rotary and UAV Programmes

    Farnborough, UK: “The boom in India has meant the last two years have been very good for business,” says Ashok Baweja, chairman, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). He’s not joking either. In March 2005 HAL had $4.5 billion worth of orders and was making 10 types of aircraft. It is developing multiple new projects in the rotary and UAV sectors including:
    – a new Light Combat Helicopter (LCH)
    – a 60 tonne multi-role helicopter
    – a 10 tonne multi-role helicopter
    – the ongoing development of the Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH)
    – naval, tactical and new concept unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

    The LCH was initiated around 10 months ago and will be an home-developed 6 ton, tandem seat, narrow fuselage, fixed undercarriage aircraft. The Indian Army has a stated requirement for 65 such aircraft. Baweja said there will be no link at all with South Africaโ€™s Denel organisation, manufacturer of the Rooivalk.

    Discussions with Russian companies over the development of a 60 ton helicopter, capable of lifting 20 tons, have been ongoing over the past three years. India has a requirement for 45 aircraft of this type, with the Russians needing a further 100. Baweja said that by basing the project within India, the usual difficulties associated with Russian partnerships could probably be circumnavigated.

    As for the multi-role 10 ton helicopter, potential partners include Eurocopter, Sikorsky, AgustaWestland, Mil and Kazan. A decision on this partnership was expected in the next few months.

    HAL has delivered 72 Dhruv helicopters to Indian forces with another 50 to be delivered by the end of this year and a further 40 next. Baweja says that the weaponisation programme is now under way and will include a 20 mm gun from French company GIAT, rockets from MBDA and a defensive aid suite from South Africa. Once the weaponisation of the Dhruv is established the technology will be transferred over to the new LCH.

    Baweja describes HALโ€™s business relationship with Israeli companies Elbit and IAI is strong and growing for equipment including targeting systems, avionics and helmets. Elbit recently won trials to supply electro optical pods and a target seeker. These companies are also involved in HALโ€™s burgeoning push into UAV development. โ€œWe are doing very well with our Israeli partners,โ€ he says. The tactical UAV will be developed primarily for the export market first, said Baweja. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    in reply to: Indian Missile news and speculations #1812462
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    Armed forces favour Agni

    Prithvi missile project may be terminated

    # Plans to raise more missile groups equipped with Prithvi missiles could be put on hold
    # IAF has turned down plans to acquire Prithvi II

    NEW DELHI: Despite the lack of success in the first test firing of the long range Agni-III missile, its shorter range versions would continue to be favoured for other tactical and strategic deployments and could even replace the Prithvi series of missiles which have not found favour with the armed forces, said Defence Ministry sources here.

    Sources said the continued experimentation with the Agni family of missiles would soon signal the termination of the Prithvi ballistic missile project, the first real success story in the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme.

    Although there were reservations about the accuracy of Prithvi missiles, the armed forces were aware that the navigation systems could be improved over time. But they were more concerned about the cumbersome procedure for filling the missiles before the launch as that could leave tell tale signs for the enemy to strike at its location.

    As a result, work began on an Agni-I missile variation, which completed its last successful test over two years ago. The importance of the test was underlined by congratulatory messages by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, United Progressive Alliance chairperson Sonia Gandhi and Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee.

    Since then, the sources said, the equipping of the specially-raised “334 Missile Group” of the Indian Army with these missiles is “almost complete” while the raising of the “335 Missile Group” has been delayed because of rolling stock unavailability.

    The Army also has Prithvi missiles in the “333 Missile Group” and the raising of “444 Missile Group” (sometimes referred to as 222 Missile Group) is also nearly complete. But plans to raise more missile groups equipped with Prithvi missiles could be put on hold despite the Bharat Dynamic Limited having put the production on stream.

    In contrast to Prithvi, Agni missiles are filled with solid fuel that does not require a large number of vehicles for fuelling the liquid fuel-based Prithvi I and II. The Indian Air Force too has turned down plans to acquire Prithvi II and, for the present, is focussing more on fitting Brahmos missiles, a product of an Indo-Russian joint venture company. Work is on in Russia to strengthen the wings of the Sukhoi-30 MKI fighter to accommodate a Brahmos missile under either wing. :dev2:

    in reply to: Indian Air Force News & Discussion June- Aug 2006 #2565767
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    Russiaโ€™s Mi-17 to Land in India

    India will seal a contract for buying 80 Mi-17 combat transport helicopters in Russia provided Russia purchases 20 Dhruv helicopters of Indiaโ€™s make for a total worth of $120 million. The analysts are at a loss now, unable to name the company willing to purchase such helicopters here.
    It was Indian Air Force Commander-in-Chief Shashindra Pal Tyagi that told The Armaments Export journal that India intends to buy a big consignment of helicopters in Russia. Shanshindra Pal Tyagi specified they are willing to order 80 helicopters.

    The contract is due to be signed in late 2006, so that the client could receive the first consignment in 2007, sources at the air construction community of Russia said. As each Mi-17 costs around $5 million, the overall worth of the contract will range from $400 million to $500 million, depending on completing parts.

    Overall, Russia supplied more than 400 Mi helicopters to India. Of this number, 300 helicopters are still in operation, mostly Mi-8s and Mi-17s.

    The tricky point is that India conditions the contract to Russiaโ€™s commitment to acquire light Dhruv helicopters of Indian HAL. โ€œThe principal decision on purchasing Dhruvs has been made at the level of Russiaโ€™s and Indian Intergovernmental Commission for Military and Technical Cooperation, but the issue hasnโ€™t been agreed to the end,โ€ a source with Russiaโ€™s government said on condition of anonymity. โ€œThere are no plans to buy this helicopter for Russiaโ€™s Air Forces, if only for some civil clients.โ€
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    in reply to: The IAF – March-April 2006 #2563645
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    Russia hardsells MiGs to India

    Young IAF pilots prefer Mirages over F-16s. But the Mirage assembly lines are now being shut down.

    Though French defence minister Michele Alliot-Marie told her Indian counterpart Pranab Mukherjee last month that the lines could be kept open if India gave “firm indications”, France itself is pushing the Rafale now.

    If not the much-cheaper Mirage, go for Rafale. At more than $70 million per jet, Rafale is no doubt very expensive but it’s of the latest generation and packs a mean punch. If not 126, we can go in for a lesser number of Rafales,” says a Wing Commander.

    But what about the American jets? The US is even promising spin-offs from its F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and FA-22 Raptor programmes, as also the AESA radars, in the deal. Pilots do not seem too keen on F-16s, which they say haven’t fared too well either “across the border” or in joint exercises with India.

    But they feel the much-more expensive F/A-18s, if equipped with AESA radars which make fighters much more lethal, could provide India with a decisive technological edge.

    Russia, in turn, is also hardselling its MiG-29M2s. Russian PM Mikhail Fradkov’s visit last week saw Moscow telling New Delhi that MiG-29M2s were “1.5 times cheaper” than new entrants in the race like Rafale.

    “Russians have their problems of delayed projects and unreliable spare supply but they give access to everything, unlike the Americans,” says an officer. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    in reply to: The IAF – March-April 2006 #2564209
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    another one goes down

    A trainer version of the MiG 21 fighter aircraft of the Indian Air Force crashed soon after take-off from Uttarlai airbase in the Barmer district of Rajasthan on Tuesday. Two pilots were killed in the crash.

    “The aircraft crashed near Uttarlai village in Barmer district at 3:35 pm,” an IAF spokesman said in New Delhi.

    The bodies of the pilots were found near the crash site by rescue helicopters.

    “So far, no damage has been reported on the ground as the fighter crashed in an open area,” he said. A team of flight safety officials from Air Headquarters had also rushed to the spot. The IAF has ordered a court of inquiry to find out the cause of the accident. The ill-fated aircraft was one of the older versions, which are progressively being phase

    in reply to: The IAF – March-April 2006 #2565246
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    IAF doubles overhauling of copters

    The number of helicopters to be overhauled annually by the Air Force has been doubled. This sharp increase in the overhauling task has raised several questions, among them being the reason as to why does the Air Force suddenly require such a large number of helicopters to be overhauled.

    The step has also brought into focus other issues like availability of trained technical manpower, adequate infrastructure and the inflow of spares. The increase in task is expected to continue for a few years.

    Sources revealed that from the forthcoming financial year, No.3 Base Repair Depot (BRD) here has tasked to step up its “production” to about 35 helicopters annually. Production entails stripping open the machine, removing and overhauling the engine and other subsystems, repairing the airframe and finally reassembling and flight-testing the machine.

    Over the past few years, the annual “production” at 3 BRD varied from 16-20 helicopters annually. The depot is responsible for the repair and maintenance of Soviet-origin helicopters in the IAF inventory. This includes the Mi-8 and Mi-17 medium utility helicopters and the Mi-25/35 helicopter gunships.

    For the purpose of working out the modalities of the revised task, the depot has been on the itinerary of IAF top brass concerned with maintenance. the Air Officer-in-Charge, Maintenance at Air Headquarters, Air Marshal D.U. Chengappa, was here a few days ago. The Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the Nagpur-based Maintenance Command, Air Marshal K.S. Chaturvedi, is also scheduled to arrive here, while a visit by the Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi, is on the cards though it is yet to be finalised.

    One reason for the increase in task, sources said, could be that the IAF was unable to stick to its stipulated overhaul plan due to heavy commitments, particularly relief operations. A senior officer said the IAF may have decided to continue operating aircraft as long as it safely could without allowing them to be on ground for routine time-bound overhaul.

    “It may have overcome immediate requirements at that time, but it has serious long term implications which were not addressed at that time,” he said.

    Of prime concern to IAF authorities is the availability of adequate technical manpower to meet the enhanced task, for which the IAF policy on postings is to blame. Unlike many major air forces, IAF engineers and technicians do not stick to working on one particular aircraft type. During the course of their career, they end up working on almost all types of aircraft in the IAF’s inventory. ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: The IAF – March-April 2006 #2565939
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    IAF gives its personnel a new salute

    NEW DELHI: In a major departure from decades-old tradition since British times, the Indian Air Force has changed its salute. From now on, IAF personnel will greet their superiors and others with a crisp new salute which is mid-way between the Army and Navy salutes.

    Moreover, unlike Army soldiers, the “air warriors” are now expected to salute in their own new distinctive style even when they are without caps or headgear, in civilian clothes or seated, according to detailed orders passed this week.

    Till now, the IAF hand salute was just like the Army one. It was executed by keeping the open palm forward, with the fingers and thumb together and the middle finger almost touching the hatband or right eyebrow.

    The Navy, in turn, salutes with the palm facing towards the ground at a 90-degree angle. The new IAF salute involves the right arm being sharply raised from the front by the shortest possible way, with the plane of the palm at 45-degree angle to the forehead.
    And instead of the practice of “bracing up” when clad in civilian attire like their Army counterparts, IAF personnel will now have to salute their superiors when they come face to face.

    Asked about the rationale behind this, IAF spokesperson Wing Commander Mahesh Upasani said: “Saluting is a military way of paying compliments.

    The new salute is natural and convenient. There was also a need to standardise the different ways of greeting your seniors.” ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    in reply to: Indian navy – news & discussion #2068879
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    Naval chief calls net-centric warfare adoption a costly affair

    New Delhi, Dec 21 (PTI) India will have to be “selective” in inducting futuristic network-centric warfare capabilities as transition to this cutting-edge techonology is proving to be a “forbiddingly high-cost affair”, according to Naval chief Admiral Arun Prakash.
    Asserting that the country had no other option but to induct this frontline technology, Prakash said: “We will have to pick and choose on what technology we need at what time.”

    Delivering the valedictory address at the first-ever tri-Service joint seminar on the ways for the Indian Armed Forces to turn network-centric, the Naval chief said though earlier estimates had put the cost at around Rs 300-400 crore, the Navy had already spent Rs 1,000 crore.

    “Now, the new estimates put the figure at Rs 6,000-7,000 crore to make the Armed Forces network centric, which is steep. So we will have to be very selective in inducting network-centric system,” he said.

    “There can be no transplantation. We must take as much or as little of networking as we can absord, suited to our own peculiar conditions and to our genius,” he said.

    Describing future wars as short, intense and technology-driven conflicts, the Naval chief said network-centric technology would give the country’s armed forces a decisive edge in such confrontations.

    He said network-centric operations would impact all levels of war — strategic, operational and tactical. “So network-centric operations will necessitate changes in not only the weaponary but also in the way we train our personnel.” :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    in reply to: Indian Navy – News and Discussion #2052686
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    indian navy submarine launched in russia after upgradation

    Moscow, April. 22 (PTI): INS “Sindhughosh,” a diesel- electric Indian naval submarine, was launched today at a shipyard in northern Russia after deep upgradation with a cruise missile complex and sonar system.

    Launched with the breaking of coconut and uncorking of Champagne, Sindhughosh (Sea Soul) is the third Kilo class submarine of project 877EKM modernised by “Zvyozdochka” (Little Star) shipyard situated in Severodvinsk on the White Sea in the Arctic Circle.

    Built in 1985 at Soviet “Admiralty Shipyard’ in Leningrad (now St Petersburg), INS Sindhughosh has been retrofitted with Russian “Club-S” cruise missile complex capable of destroying enemy ships, submarines and coastal targets within a range of 200 km.

    In the course of its upgradation, it has also been fitted with Indian sonar “Ushas” and telecom system “CCS-MK”. After all-round trials at sea INS Sindhughosh would sail for home later this year.

    Earlier, INS Sindhuvir and INS Sindhuratna had also undergone similar upgradation in “Zvyozdochka” shipyard in 1999 and 2002. Two more Kilo class submarines were simultaneously modernised at ‘Admiralty Shipyards” in St. Petersburg as part of the rejuvenation of the Indian Navy’s underwater might.

    According to a spokesman of the shipyard, another Indian submarine INS “Sindhuvijay” would arrive in Severodvinsk next month for upgradation, ITAR-TASS reported. ๐Ÿ™‚

    in reply to: IAF- news & discussions- MARCH 2005 #2612646
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    IAF open talks with the US

    # Proposal for joint production mooted
    # Discussions to take place in Washington
    # `Relationship with India has changed since 1998′

    NEW DELHI: The United States has offered India joint production in military equipment and detailed discussions would take place during two high-level meetings planned in Washington.

    Talks on joint production of F-16s and F-18s would be held during the meeting of the India-U.S. Defence Planning Group (co-chaired by the Defence Secretaries of both countries) and the Defence Minister, Pranab Mukherjee’s visit to Washington, said Jeffrey Kohler who heads the Defence Security Cooperation Agency, the organisation that oversees U.S. military sales and financing programmes to foreign countries.

    Lt. Gen Kohler was here to hold the first discussions between the Indian Air Force and the U.S. Government on the possibility of sale and joint production of F-16 and F-18 planes. The U.S. team will return later to explain the main features of the aircraft to a joint delegation of the army and the navy.

    Basic explanations

    The talks spanned two hours with the U.S. team explaining the basic capabilities and the upgrade cycle of both aircraft, one made by Lockheed Martin and the other by Boeing, said Lt. Gen. Kohler, who was an F-16 pilot. The IAF delegation was led by the IAF Deputy Chief of Staff, J.S. Gujral.

    Asked about the U.S. Government’s role in selling the fighter planes, Lt. Gen. Kohler said: “We read the request for information and felt both [F-16 and F-18] best met the requirements. Therefore, both Boeing and Lockheed have applied for licences. The DSCA and the U.S. Embassy will support both companies equally.”

    On the issue of long-term support to the planes against the backdrop of India’s previous experience of U.S. sanctions, he pointed out that the U.S. had sold 11,000 defence items worth over $220 billion to many countries.

    “We are the largest exporters of service equipment and training. This speaks loudly for itself otherwise those countries would have been looked elsewhere.” However, only a few were penalised for human rights abuses and loan defaults. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    in reply to: Indian Navy – News and Discussion #2055909
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    inaugurated, but not ready

    NEW DELHI: It’s supposed to be a sprawling cutting edge, crucial facility to hone the best young minds and bodies to take the Indian Navy into the next generation as a fighting machine. Even though it’s been delayed for years, it’s also supposed to be a showpiece for the force.

    Yet, instead of the President, who is the Supreme Commander of the Indian armed forces, being called to inaugurate it, the Navy in its wisdom has asked Kerala CM Oommen Chandy to do the honours.

    There is speculation that the President may have deliberately been kept away, to keep the function low profile and away from media glare.

    For the Naval brass, it could turn out to be a wise decision, because there is simply very little to show off.

    If the President were to inaugurate, on his tour of the entire facility, the only major work he would have been shown is the cadet’s mess, that too not yet complete.

    CM Chandy wouldn’t need such elaborate honours and wouldn’t embarrass the brass by asking awkward questions regarding completion, given the fact that his only relation with the new academy is that it is in his own state.

    So on April 6, Chandy would inaugurate the 2,300-acre INS Zamorin, incomplete and lacking even basic infrastructure, on Kerala’s northern coast.

    Sources within the Navy point out that the new Naval Academy is far from completion. In fact, they point out that hardly 50 per cent of the work is complete.

    The Navy is commissioning it in haste because it wants to fulfill assurances given to the Government and Parliament that the first batch of cadets would begin training in July 2005.

    The sources say that the only major work completed in the Academy complex is that of the cadet mess, that too the kitchen and other peripherals are yet not fully ready.

    Everything else is far from completion and most of it in a bad mess, almost two decades after the massive project was conceived.

    Training facilities such as the swimming pool and even the parade ground are not finished. There is not enough accommodation on the campus for officers and cadets.

    The academy still does not have even permanent water and electricity supply systems in place. For now the academy premises draws water from bore-wells, the permanent river water supply system and its filtration plants are yet to be put in place.

    The complex gets electricity now through a temporary transformer, and the dedicated supply feeder is yet to be installed.

    “It would take another six-seven months to take basic shape. And completion is at least a couple of years away,” say sources aware of the entire project.

    Yet, the Navy seems determined to have its first batch of cadets begin training by around August this year. By then facilities won’t be in place and the cadets won’t get to train in the promised modern complex that INS Zamorin is supposed to be.

    A Naval officer told timesofindia.com that there are many reasons behind the commissioning, justifying the decision. The main reason being that this would put the facility in the hands of the Navy, which could then speed up the completion. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    in reply to: IAF- news & discussions- MARCH 2005 #2623955
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    India lobby ready for F-16 dogfight

    ISLAMABAD/WASHINGTON: Though the Government of Pakistan does not see any hurdle to it receiving F-16 fighter aircraft from the US, the Indian lobby in the US Congress has said that it won’t be sitting idle, and has reportedly stepped up its opposition to the proposed sale.

    According to diplomatic sources, Pakistan is expecting Indian lobbyists to intensify their efforts to obstruct the sale of the fighter jets.

    Nevertheless, Islamabad is confident that has it has the requisite number of American lawmakers on board to push the long-pending deal through.

    “The influential US lawmakers are on board as far as the resumption of F-16s’ supply to Pakistan is concerned and this has been conveyed to Islamabad,” The Nation quoted the sources, as saying.

    Pakistan is likely to ask for 25 to 30 aircraft but as there is no limit on the purchase of planes, this number could be increased as per their requirements.

    Months before the announcement of Bush administration…
    about the supply of F-16 planes to Pakistan, the pro-India lobby had made it clear that any such move would be fully opposed.

    Two democratic lawmakers, Senator Jon Corzine and Representative Frank Pallone, in their recent visit to New Delhi, said any proposal by the Bush administration to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan would be met with strong opposition in the Congress.

    “We see no hurdle in the way of Congress approval to the sale of F-16s which is likely to take more than two months. As far as the number of the aircraft to be bought is concerned it would be taken after the consultations with the US team of experts which will arrive here later this month to hold talks on F-16 aircraft,” a senior official said. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    in reply to: Indian Navy – News and Discussion #2056736
    black eagle
    Participant

    German submarine supplier will not replace french immidiately

    German Submarine supplier will not replace French immediately โ€“ longer term the situation is different for Indian Navy
    Lara larani
    Mar. 24, 2005

    Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH has come out recently from corruption charges and is in talk with Indian officials for bagging $4 Billion of Submarine supplies to Indian Navy.

    According to sources, Indian Navy will receive the French Scorpene subs, for which negotiations have been completed. There is no question of replacing the French, officials in India said.

    Longer term the scenario is different. French, German and Americans will compete for the lucrative purchases as Indian Navy continues to modernize. The Russians are not far behind. Indian Navy aims to come at par in ten years to the capabilities and reach of the Chinese Navy.

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