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  • in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #745092
    Noah
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    I agree that the Bermuda treaty is cr_p. Don’t get me wrong, but the decision to implement what you describe is still a policy, although we are probably just quibling about deffinitions now. My problem with the EU approach is that it is only addressing one part of the issue. Either way, observing how it all unfolds will be very interesting.

    Noah

    in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #745177
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    You just made my point for a active air transport policy rather than a passive one through the back door dressed up as competition policy!

    Just enforcing competition on one part of the value chain without all the other elements in place will, IMHO, lead to more harm than good!

    Noah.

    in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #745442
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    Funnily enough, my conclusion was the same in my disertation. Although things have changed substantially since then (95-96), the bilateral agreement regimes still predominate, although the EU is constantly looking for ways, either through treaty revisions or competition policy or foreign trade agreements to get itself a role.

    It is a far from satisfactory state of affairs, however, as there is no real coherent policy framework for effective air transport as a whole in the EU but just a big stick in terms of competition.

    My conclusion was that air transport is a complex issue and just leaving it to the market to decide what outcomes are achieved will have significant social and political ramifications that have not been thought through. Also, looking at the US industry at the moment one gets the feeling that just copying that model will not work in Europe and betting the house on the low-cost point-to-point operators seems to me a little foolhardy.

    The need for reform and healthy finances in EU aviation is undeniable and the way many of the European companies operate (or don’t for that matter!) must be a cause for concern, but there needs to be a carrot AND stick approach from the EU if it is ever going to be more than just a policeman of the industry, IMHO.

    Noah

    in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #745935
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    Thanks very much for the very detailed instructions. I will give the group a try and see how I get on.

    I like Belgium too, although I don’t know the country in as much detail as you. Like the beers and the great variety and number of bars, but never flown with any of the airlines.

    My interest in Sabena is more from the business side. I had done my disertation at university on the Europeanisation of air transport regulation, but once in the the big bad commercial world I found my carere moving me towards the world of technology and the internet. Now that this has all very much imploded, I am finding myself dusting off my old disertation and considering whether with all the upheaval taking place in the European air transport sector it may be a good industry to return to as a research subject, either academic or commercial or both.

    Since Sabena and Swissair were the first to face closure, I have started my preliminary trawl for possible research ideas and subjects from those two and the efforts of the two countries concerned to rebuild their air transport sectors via new ‘old’ companies. I am very interested to understand how the business models of the ‘newcos’ were envisaged.

    Any pointers or useful information from yourself or the rest of the group would be more than welcome.

    Noah

    in reply to: Alitalia decision challenged #647649
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    RE: Alitalia decision challeng

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    in reply to: Alitalia decision challenged #648220
    Noah
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    RE: Alitalia decision challeng

    It seems to me that there is more to the BA/Iberia deal than just code sharing, but so many of these grand moves end up fizzling out once the practicalities come to be worked out. It would be good to know what people think on this one.

    With regards to Alitalia, of course subsidies in theory should not play a part, but can anyone seriously imagine any Italian government letting the airline go to the wall?

    The way the EU has approved the refinancing shows how much pressure there must be from the Italian side and unless the airlines that have made the complaint are prepard for a lenghty (and costly) process at the European Court, the Alitalia decision is likely to stand.

    Noah

    in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #648513
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    Would love an explanation 😉

    in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #648531
    Noah
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    Interested in the sabena group on yahoo, but a little confused about how it all works.

    How come the big passion for Belgian aviation?

    Noah

    in reply to: Lufthansa to launch budget air #648720
    Noah
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    RE: Lufthansa to launch budget

    It seems fairly risky, with the Lufthansa cost base being pretty high, but I guess they have taken an “if you cant beat them join them approach”.

    The abillity of a traditional network operator to also operate in the point to point low-cost market still remains to be seen, however. Maybe they have taken a look at the BA/Go plan and figured out how to make it work better?

    Noah

    in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #649575
    Noah
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    It will be interesting to see if the Swiss or SN Brussels model of reconstituted national carrier makes it in the long-run.

    Noah

    in reply to: SN Brussels Airlines … #649597
    Noah
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    RE: SN Brussels Airlines …

    It sounds to me like the kind of thing the regulators would have to approve.

    Noah

    in reply to: Swiss plans to breakeven next year #651181
    Noah
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    RE: Swiss plans to breakeven next year

    Have heard it mentioned, but not in much detail.

    Was it in place before the Swissair collapse?

    Noah

    in reply to: Swiss plans to breakeven next year #651576
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    RE: Swiss plans to breakeven next year

    My feelings too, especially since the timing of the Swissair collapse was very convenient in terms of the agreement between the Swiss government and the EU going into effect that would have made the whole exercise much more complicated in terms of fitting it in to the EU conditions.

    At the same time, there are many people I have spoken to who are long term commentators on the aviation industry in Europe who deny there was any premeditated plan.

    Somehow even for the Swiss I think it would be difficult to prepare such a complex financial and corporate restructuring plan over a weekend.

    Noah

    in reply to: Swiss plans to breakeven next year #651787
    Noah
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    RE: Swiss plans to breakeven next year

    Not sure what I think about the airline yet, but their communications and PR people have done a fantastic job if one thinks back at the images of stranded Swissair passangers a few months back on the news worldwide and compares them to the kind of coverage the succesor airline is received now.

    It would be interesting to know if they had a plan in place at the time or made it up along the way.

    Noah

    in reply to: BA's Preffered Merger Partner-Iberia #651796
    Noah
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    RE: BA’s Preffered Merger Partner-Iberia

    Sorry for the late reply, but have just discovered (and joined) this forum.

    I think the proposed link-up between Iberia and BA is a very interesting development.

    With the Commissioner being Spanish, I imagine the EU Transport Commission is likely to ‘smile’ on this proposed linkup in exactly the way it did not on the Alitalia/Air France deal (although after the approving the Alitalia aid package, I imagine Italy cannot really complain.

    Noah

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